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missesalot

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09-27-2015 03:29 PM

Today I had two revelations, one, I hate sanding. Two, I suck at sharpening. Seems like the only way out of a lot of number one is to be good at number two,is there anyone in the Rochester NY area who would be willing to have a look at my tools and methods and tell me wth I am doing wrong, I will provide beer/scotch, trade computer help and or manual labor, and guaranteed comic relief.


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#1 posted 09-27-2015 03:58 PM

Hey Lil’ buddy. I be glad to help but it’s more of a drive than I’m willing to undertake. Sorry about that.

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#2 posted 09-27-2015 04:07 PM

Thanks anyway bob !

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#3 posted 09-27-2015 11:34 PM

Missesalot, I am passable at sharpening but am not an expert. I use the scary sharp method. This article is fairly comprehensive. Maybe it will get you on the right path. HTH

-- Art

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#4 posted 09-28-2015 02:12 PM

I am going to try the scary sharp. I think what i’m struggling with is what to actually do, back bevel micro bevel 2ndary bevel etc….. I have the veritas honing guide setup, no problems with that.

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#5 posted 09-28-2015 11:08 PM

Avoid a back bevel like the plague. Micro bevel and secondary bevel are two different terms for the same thing.

I suggest that you flatten the back of an inexpensive chisel, then work through the grits on the primary bevel. This will help you develop your technique and begin to understand the process. You should have a sharp chisel when done. Use it a bit and touch it up as needed.

Once you are comfortable with it you can start to explore options like a secondary bevel and go through the steps again. By that point in time you will be as good at sharpening as 90% of woodworkers and you will wonder why you ever thought it was difficult. HTH

-- Art

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#6 posted 09-29-2015 12:26 AM

Art, can I assume that everything you just said applies to plane irons as well? Thanks a lot for responding

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#7 posted 09-29-2015 01:02 AM

I am familiar with both Rochester and scotch. But too far away, and I don’t know how to sharpen.

That article from Art is great. I will be experimenting as well.

-- Bigfoot tries to take pictures of me

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#8 posted 09-29-2015 01:14 AM

Dude, until you (a) f up and (b) recognize it you cannot improve. Sounds like you have both so sail on you crazy diamond. YouTube vids are your friend until a mentor appears, so congrats on hitting *a) and (b) and check out that YouTube. Fight on and it’ll get better, no question.

Also, gotta agree on the back-bevel comment. Get the front perfect before moving on to back and micro. Straight scary sharp is like discovering fire for the initiate.

-- - Crud. Go tell your mother that I need a Band-aid.

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#9 posted 09-29-2015 10:35 PM

Yes, I sharpen both the same way. There is no significant difference between the two from the sharpening stand point.

-- Art

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#10 posted 09-30-2015 05:22 PM

I’m not THAT far from you. I live in central NY right off the thruway. I can make dull things sharp, we should try and get together sometime. I’d be happy to show you the mess I make of things.

-- Talent, brilliance, and humility are my virtues.

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#11 posted 09-30-2015 05:55 PM

I’m in, I’ll pm you

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#12 posted 09-30-2015 06:15 PM

I’m a bit too far away from you, so it might just be easier for you to mail me the scotch. I’ll mail you some sandpaper.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#13 posted 09-30-2015 06:22 PM

I ll do you a solid. Throw the sand paper away and get a card scraper.

-- Don't blame me, I voted for no one.

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missesalot

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#14 posted 09-30-2015 07:05 PM

SirIrb, I have a card scraper! I love the idea of it, and now and then i can get a shaving off it. Seems to just crush the wood fibers when i compare it to a couple passes of my smoother, maybe its spoda be that way. I cussed it and the burnisher last night like nobody’s business:-) Thats one of the things i want to master, and fast.

Binghampton ain’t that far, spend a lot of time in Vestal and Owego when i was i was younger and more willing to make long drives for chicks:-)

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#15 posted 09-30-2015 07:12 PM

I go skiing at Greek, and up to Syracuse to visit the folks once every month or so. That’s about it. Once every spring, we make our annual pilgrimage to Rochester : Museum of Play, Buy Buy Baby, and Woodcraft.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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