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frostwood

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1740 days ago

Specifically, I was interested on your opinions on the best value a of block plane. The two I have under consideration are: The Lee Valley Veritas Low Angle Block
Plane (05P22*1) for $139 vs

Low angle LN for $95 ON AMAZON.

THE VARATAS does have a mouth adjustment but I am not sure how much benefit that would be.
Thanks in advance for your opinion.

-- With each new day, celebrate life. Love God with all of your heart. Share Jesus with those around you and make a positive impact on those you meet. Bob


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WayneC

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#1 posted 1739 days ago

Your compairing two different levels of planes…

The direct competitor for the LV plane is Lie-Nielson 60 1/2 . This plane is $165. I have the LN plane and it is a great plane. I have not used the LV Plane.

I belive the $81 LV Apron plane is the competitor for the LN plane (102i) that you have above.

The adjustable mouth planes are larger and very versatile. The smaller planes are very convient tools and designed for trimming and other tasks. Personally I would get an adjustable mouth block plane first then look to get an apron sized plane second. Though either would be a fine choice. It kind of depends on your planned usage and budget.

As far as manufacture goes. LV is less expensive and I would say the the workmanship on the LN planes is of higher quality. The question would be is the extra cost for the fit and finish worth it to you.

Here is a review of the LV planes by Alf

http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1815

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Brian Havens

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#2 posted 1736 days ago

Might I suggest restoring an old stanley plane? I find that they work every bit as good as a new plane and that the experience of restoring a plane is quite satisfying and educational.

I second Wayne on the adjustable mouth. The only exception is if the plane is to be used solely on end grain, but even in that case, the adjustable mouth does not hurt.

-- Brian Havens, Woodworker http://brianhavens.com

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WayneC

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#3 posted 1736 days ago

Along the lines of what Brian was saying. You could look for an old stanley 9 1/2, 60 1/2, or 65 low angle block plane and tune it. Performance would be very good and if you wanted to kick it up a notch you could get a hock replacement blade…

Here is a Stanley 65 I found in an antique store for $25 along side my LN 60 1/2.

With Lie-Nielsen Plane

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Brian Havens

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#4 posted 1736 days ago

Oh yeah, love the knuckle caps. (#18, #19, #65)

-- Brian Havens, Woodworker http://brianhavens.com

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Mike_Henderson

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#5 posted 1736 days ago

Between the LN and the LV low angle block planes with adjustable mouths, I prefer the LN just because it fits my hand better. But then LV came out with a new line of low angle block planes and I haven’t been able to use one of those yet so my recommendation is not complete.

Regarding knuckle cap planes, I prefer the adjustment of a regular plane, for example, the LN 60 1/2. The reason is that it’s harder to adjust the knuckle cap plane. You have to keep trying to close the cap and then adjusting the screw until you get the right amount of pressure. Then, if you want to release the pressure to make a lateral adjustment, you pretty much have to completely release the pressure on the lever cap plane, while on the LN type plane you can loosen just enough to move the blade. When you go to tighten the lever cap again on the knuckle cap plane, you can have the blade move on you, causing you to have to go back and adjust again.

Be that as it may, I have a 65 that I use and like. It just looks trick. If you go to buy a 65, look carefully at the back sides of the mouth. You’ll often find cracks there where a previous owner forced the lever cap down too tightly and broke the bottom. The steel is very thin there and can be broken fairly easily.

Mike

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WayneC

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#6 posted 1736 days ago

The veritas premium planes are real nice although they go for over $100 more than the LN adjustable mouth block plane. I played around with one at the woodworking show a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=61963&cat=1,41182,48942

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ondablade

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#7 posted 1735 days ago

;-) I really hope Lee Valley are not headed down the collector/bling route….

ian

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Walnut_Weasel

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#8 posted 1735 days ago

Frostwood,

Here is a link to a similar topic covered in the not-so-different past – most of the information on it looks similar to what has already been covered here.

-- James - www.walnutweasel.wordpress.com

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frostwood

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#9 posted 1735 days ago

Thanks Walnut Weasel, That indeed was a good thread on the same subject.

-- With each new day, celebrate life. Love God with all of your heart. Share Jesus with those around you and make a positive impact on those you meet. Bob

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blackcherry

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#10 posted 1735 days ago

My honest opinion is you just can’t go wrong with either one. Since I have both block plane in my collection I truly can’t say which one works better or out performs the other. Value is with the Veritas, other than that there great performers….Blkcherry

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Francisco Luna

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#11 posted 1735 days ago

Both are exseptional planes, Veritas is bigger (wider, heavier) has more attatchments / blades available, but I find LN much handy ~ better for use + classic look.

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Derek Cohen

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#12 posted 1732 days ago

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasPremiumBlockPlane.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

-- Buildiing furniture, and reviewing and building tools at http://www.inthewoodshop.com

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