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Forum topic by JasonWagner posted 11-23-2009 11:20 PM 4409 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JasonWagner

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11-23-2009 11:20 PM

Topic tags/keywords: used jointer dj-20

I’m trying to get some opinions here. A guy really close by has an older DJ-20 jointer that I know quite a few people on here have. He is down to $700 but might take lower. It has a replacement motor (1hp) and has some surface rust. He also says that the guard was welded at one point. Does these two fixes point to abuse that I should stay away from? He commented that the surface rust will rub off the first few times I run wood through it…kinda made me laugh thinking of jointing the $100 piece of bloodwood I just got to remove rust from a tool. I’m thinking that it might still be worth it for $600 or so. Thanks for any input.
Here’s the link. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/tls/1476978831.html

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#1 posted 11-24-2009 12:22 AM

I’d be leary.

First, DJ-20s come stock with a 1 1/2 hp motor. It’s possible he made a mistake in listing, but replacement 1hps are cheaper.

Second, how exactly do you crack the guard to the point that it needs to be welded? Being dropped from high enough to crack the guard may have damaged the tables or the cutterhead.

You can get a Grizzly GO490 for $850 shipped: right now!

Normally I’m a huge used tool fan, but anything with obvious damage, neglect and possibly below standard repairs should be kept at arm’s length.

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#2 posted 11-24-2009 12:29 AM

I asked him to clarify the motor and he said it was a 1hp replacing a 1hp which didn’t jive with my internet searches on the topic.

Thanks for your thoughts Nathan…I can’t tell if I want people to talk me into it or out of it! :-)

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#3 posted 11-24-2009 01:27 AM

Jason,
Wouldn’t talk you into or out of it. If it were me, I’d take a closer look at the machine, because it’s a nice heavy duty piece of equipment to own.
Drop an email to Delta tech support and ask some questions. If the jointer is factory shipped with a 1.5 hp motor, and has been replaced with a cheap import 1hp, it can be upgraded. Baldor makes very good quality replacement motors, and you can probably price out a 1.5 hp model at the local WW Grainger.
Delta tech support can probably also tell you how to check for the important things, and can probably quote you on what it costs to repair, depending on where the nearest service center technician is located to your place.
They stand behind their equipment. I don’t work for them, and this isn’t a plug to buy one over a Grizzly product, but if you need any replacement parts regardless of the age of the machine-my experience with Delta has been very good.
Hope this helps.

-- Gerry

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#4 posted 11-24-2009 03:00 AM

I’d definitely go for it, I always wanted one and finally have one. Beats the Star Taiwanese 8” jointer I first had, it wasn’t bad, American Woodworker top rated, but it wasn’t no DJ-20. At $700 that’s a steal, less then half the best price around now. Heck, that’s what I paid for my Star over 10 years ago.

You can replace the guard new for $61 and you can pick up a new Marathon or Leeson 1-1/2 Hp motor for $130-$225. Northern Tools has the Leeson for $225. Even if you put another $300 into it it would still be worth it. If a deal like this would have came up when I bought mine I would have jumped on it. I don’t mind picking something up that may need a few parts and a little work, I do that a lot. When I’m done I have a superior machine at a fraction of the cost.

I’d give it a good looking over, run it, listen to the motor and bearings, check the cutterhead bearings for play, check that the tables move freely, and same with the fence. If it checks out $700 would be a good deal. $600 even sweeter. Top Saver will get the rust off easily and from the picture it don’t look bad.

I don’t know why, here at this forum when a deal on a quality machine like this comes up there’s always somebody that has to say Grizzly! Grizzly! Grizzly! Why settle for something second rate when you can get the original tried and true? There’s a reason why a lot of people have DJ-20’s, that in and of itself says a lot.

I wouldn’t use a Grizzly anything it if was given to me. I’d sell it and buy something good.

Sorry for the rant, same thing happened when Brad_Nailer found that great deal on the UniSaw, Buy Grizzly! Just tired of seeing it, just like the old SawStop!

People are aware of Grizzly, when they want an opinion on something like this that is what they’re asking for, not a Grizzly sales pitch.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#5 posted 11-24-2009 03:28 AM

And I agree with what Gerry said. Delta stocks parts for their machines way longer then any of the competitors. It’s been said you can still get parts for a 30’s vintage UniSaw (don’t know that personally though). Delta even supplies manuals free of charge, that I do know firsthand.

I’ve had dealing with getting parts from these Taiwanese machine suppliers, you wait, they don’t stock them. 6 months to get an end bell for my Jet grinder under warranty. Right now, I ordered a Jet cabinet for my Jet 6” Belt 12” Disc Sander on October 4th, it took 4 weeks to get it and it arrived damaged, still waiting for the replacement. Same thing with my Jet Metal working lathe when I needed parts. Needing parts says something in and of itself too.

I ordered a enclosed cabinet for my Delta Drum Sander just this past November 13th or 14th, basically the weekend, it arrived November 17th. You can’t beat Delta’s support and nobody that I know of even comes close.

Oh yeah, besides the other parts I needed for the Jet lathe that stand was damaged too. Jet wanted me to straighten it out and they’d send me some touch-up paint. Yeah right. It took a month to finally get them to send me a replacment stand.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#6 posted 11-24-2009 03:45 AM

not that great of a deal.

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#7 posted 11-24-2009 03:52 AM

Blake $700 for a DJ-20, not that great of a deal? You’ve seen better? I’m curious as you what your basis is?

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#8 posted 11-24-2009 04:22 AM

Jason,

This seems like a good price if there are not too many problems with the machine. I took a quick look at the New England listings and see them from $500 to $1100.

I have a 10-year-old 8” Delta 37-380. I bought this about a year ago in almost-new condition for $700 which included an excellent mobile base. This is not as robust as the DJ-20, but is a great machine. I am just trying to give you some more data to go on.

I agree with Curt about the Delta customer service. Every time that I have called them, they were more than helpful.

Good luck.

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#9 posted 11-24-2009 04:36 AM

Wow. $500 for a DJ-20. I woulda never thought that.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#10 posted 11-24-2009 05:18 AM

I agree with everything Blankman said about Grizzly. I’ve had a couple of Grizzlys in the past, and they were total junk. Both broke internal parts, couldn’t get parts from them, and had no idea when I might get them, if ever. Well I never got them, period. Had a friend to turn some parts, got them fixed, and sold them as quick as possible. Never again on Grizzly crap. All I own is Delta, and not one problem in all the years I’ve had them.
Delta customer service is tops with me. I will never buy Tiawanese crap ever again. I have yet to see why everyone is so high on Grizzly when so many people have problems with them, damaged in delivery, and delay in new parts, etc. Like they say—to each his own—I say buyer beware.

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