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1275 days ago |
This may be a dumb question, but…. This review happened to catch my eye, and it got me to thinking (usually not a good thing). Since probably more than 90% of my cuts are on material less than 1” thick, is there any downside to using a 7 1/4” blade in a table saw? I’m not talking about for everyday general purpose cutting… I have a Forrest WWII that I’m quite happy with. But if I wanted a couple of special purpose blades (plywood, thin kerf, etc.) it would be cheaper to purchase the smaller blades. I was just wondering if there was a particular reason not to do this, other than the obvious sacrifice in maximum cutting depth. -- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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#1 posted 1275 days ago |
Charlie… dont know for sure but I believe that the motors are set for max rpm for the diameter of the blade and if you reduce the diameter you have a different speed at the tooth… if that make sense. -- Drink twice... and don't bother to cut... @ larrysworkshop.wordpress.com For lovers of all things timber... |
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#2 posted 1275 days ago |
theoretically I would think that the depth of cut is the only factor, however. the larger blades are also heavier which contributes to a more stable cutter, which would result in a cleaner cut – theoretically speaking. another thing to consider is the rotational speed – I’m not sure of the numbers, but I think that a TS turns faster RPMs than a circ-saw, which might shorten the life of the circ-saw blade if used on a TS. but I really am too lazy to look up the RPMs for the machines right now. all in all – I think it’s doable, but why not just use a good full size blade – there are some good ones out there that dont break the bank… -- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route. |
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#3 posted 1275 days ago |
Larry, you’re right….obviously the larger the diameter, the faster the tooth speed. I’m not sure how that would translate into cut quality. Sharon, I hadn’t considered different motor RPM’s. -- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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#4 posted 1275 days ago |
I’ve been using D0724X/A 24T from Diablo for a long time with no issues at all for some ripping and crosscutting, in fact yesterday I got D0760X/A “Ultrafinish 60T” to cut some venner plywood and I totally love it, like the review says, not much noise, less dust and cleaner cuts. I never thought I should not use a 7 1/4” blade on the TS -- The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me. |
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#5 posted 1275 days ago |
I use a classic Delta Homecraft TS and good 7-1/4” saw blades are a LOT cheaper than good 8”. Thinner kerf too. I keep one 8” around for those times I need the extra cutting depth. I also used it on my previous Delta Shopmaster (all I could afford) and the smaller blade would breeze through what the stock sized 10” had no chance of cutting. Under a certain dollar amount, I think a TS should come with a smaller blade. They just don’t have the power to run a full cut with a 10” blade. -- My Etsy store: http://jtcwoodcrafts.etsy.com |
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#6 posted 1275 days ago |
go for it Charlie … I’ve used smaller blades many times and the only downside is depth of cut -- keeping myself entertained |
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#7 posted 1275 days ago |
my dado head is 8” -- -erik & christy- |
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#8 posted 1275 days ago |
I don’t think going smaller should hurt.
I think a smaller thin kerf would be more stable than a large thin kerf. Dado blades are smaller in diameter, so I don’t see no harm. -- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1 |
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#9 posted 1275 days ago |
yep i use small blades all the time. go for it! |
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#10 posted 1275 days ago |
i don’t personally understand the point in putting a 7 1/4” blade in the table saw. I understand for thinner cuts and cheaper prices but you won’t get the height you want if you’ree cutting a thick piece or a long pitch angle. And those blades get so dull so quickly. I personally have the 10” freud (diablo i think its called [the red blade]) and i don’t regret buying the beauty. -- My purpose in life: Making sawdust |
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#11 posted 1275 days ago |
Not a stupid question at all Charlie. Before posting my comment to the review, I tried finding any info I could online. I guess my concern was the RPM, the depth of cut, and the stability of the blade. Kind of like routers. If I have a table mounted router, my preference is a 1/2 inch shank because I am pushing the wood into the blade, not the other way around. When you run wood into a cutting surface, the stress is much greater. To me, that is one of considerations taken into account when they design the size and shape of the blades in question. Yes, a dado blade is smaller in size than some circular saw blades, but look at the thickness and the quantity of the cutters. They are substantially weighted. I personally do not see much gain in going with circular saw blade even with a price savings of 10-15 bucks. Wood magazine had quite a list of tablesaw blades with a lot of life and quality for around a thirty dollar purchase. The blade would last longer and the cuts would be more precise, and you wouldn’t be limited to a cutting depth of just over an inch. Just my humble opinion :) -- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box. |
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#12 posted 1275 days ago |
I think is very simple, if you need the thin kerf but height is not a problem go with a small blade, if height is an issue, then go with the standard 10”, I second Mark I do also have the 10” Diablo full kerf, it is a great blade. -- The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me. |
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#13 posted 1275 days ago |
I have try it, but I rather use a 10’’ blade. -- CJIII Future cabinetmaker |
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#14 posted 1275 days ago |
Good choice for a blade alonso :) the diablo is worth the cost -- My purpose in life: Making sawdust |
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#15 posted 1275 days ago |
Charlie – The teeth on smaller diameter blade make a tighter arc than those of a 10” blade, which translates to the equivalent of a steeper hook angle. It should be fine for ripping, but I suspect it’ll be a mixed bag for ultra fine ply cuts. Most plywood blades have a fairly low hook angle. Smaller blades will work, and may even be easier to spin, but I doubt they’ll cut as cleanly on a critical fine cut. Keeping the height on a smaller diameter blade low should help some, but I don’t think it’s worth passing up a good blade for. -- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.... |
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