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Forum topic by Rick M posted 09-18-2015 05:54 PM 2755 views 0 times favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rick M

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09-18-2015 05:54 PM

Hitachi C12FDH 15 Amp 12-Inch Dual Bevel Miter Saw with Laser

Laser, dual bevel, motor out of the way, many love Hitachi CMS

VS.

DEWALT DW715 15-Amp 12-Inch Single-Bevel Compound Miter Saw

No laser, single bevel, but well loved in reviews.

Who wins? I’m leaning toward the Hitachi.

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#1 posted 09-18-2015 06:18 PM

Why a 12” in the first place when a 10” is a more accurate saw and you can pick them up for less than $ 200.00
like dw713 .

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#2 posted 09-18-2015 07:11 PM

Hitachi is very good but it is huge, it requires a lot of space-
Why do you need 12”?

-- Bert

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#3 posted 09-18-2015 07:16 PM

I have a 12” Hitachi sliding compound miter saw and it is large, but I like it very much. It seems to make nice cuts.

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#4 posted 09-18-2015 07:39 PM

Back when I bought mine, I was REALLY lusting after that Hitachi slider. It had great reviews and I loved the dual tube sliding mechanism that could be pushed almost against the wall. I had pretty much decided to go with it, but when I got to the Lowes that was near us, the hardware supervisor happened to be the associate on duty and he pointed out that they had just that morning marked their 12” DeWalt non-sliders down for clearance. It made the DeWalt almost $200 cheaper and I just couldn’t pass it up. I got the last one they had which was still in the box.

I’ve been very happy with it, and it always does what I need it to. But there’s been several times I wished I’d had just a bit more cutting depth and I think back and wish I had bought the 12” Hitachi slider.

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#5 posted 09-18-2015 07:57 PM

I am betting you will very seldom if ever use the Dual Bevel feature and unless you really need the extra depth and length of cut a 10” slider would most likely work and cost less. Plus 10” blades are cheaper and can be used on a table saw as well.

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#6 posted 09-18-2015 08:57 PM

a 10” is a more accurate saw
- kiefer

Can you elaborate? I would believe the accuracy has more to do with overall quality of the saw and ability to make adjustments than size. These 12” saws appeared to be excellent quality in person, beefier than 10” saws in the store.


I am betting you will very seldom if ever use the Dual Bevel feature and unless you really need the extra depth and length of cut a 10” slider would most likely work and cost less. Plus 10” blades are cheaper and can be used on a table saw as well.

- Richard

I’m too lazy to switch blades between a miter saw and table saw and already own two 10”, and one 8.25” cms, all single bevel. Popular consensus seems to be that sliding saws are less precise than fixed. Improved accuracy and precision are what I’m after.

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#7 posted 09-18-2015 09:41 PM

I have the DW713 and the cuts are excellent and comparing it to the Hitachi 12” slider which I got rid off after fighting with it for some time to get good clean cuts no matter what blade I used .
Unless you need the extra capacity I would recommend the DW713 it is very sturdy and there is also much less blade flex especially once the blade starts to dull a bit which is a common complaint on any 12” mitre saw particularly with thin kerf blades .

-- Kiefer https://www.youtube.com/user/woodkiefer1/videos

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#8 posted 09-18-2015 10:24 PM

“Can you elaborate? ”
the longer the track the saw rides on, the more play you get at the end also if you saw is 1/10 degree off, the error at the end of the 12” run will be much greater than at 10”12’: are more expensive and you will really use it.
I have a 10” Makita which has the crosscut capacity of a 12”

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LS1016L-10-Inch-Slide-Compound/dp/B0028Y4Q2O/ref=sr_1_1?srs=2596009011&ie=UTF8&qid=1442615273&sr=8-1&keywords=makita+miter+saw

-- Bert

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#9 posted 09-19-2015 03:58 AM

I already have two 10” chop saws and I’m not spending $500 on a slider. And frankly I’m not buying any of this about 10” saws being more accurate. It’s like any other saw, the better they are built and adjusted, the more accurate and precise they will be. Of the saws I’ve looked at in person, the 12” saws were beefier and had no detectable slop in the mechanism. If you have reason to believe that either one of the two saws I posted are not capable, that’s the type of insight I’m hoping to get. (hint, neither one is a slider)

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#10 posted 09-19-2015 04:09 AM

I like the Hitachi because it has a hold down clamp :)

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#11 posted 09-19-2015 04:27 AM

A have had a 12” Dewalt for 10 years and it is perfectly accurate. I can almost guarantee I will like a Dewalt tool. I have never used a Hitachi tool that felt better than mediocre.

I agree the 12” saws are nice to have.

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#12 posted 09-19-2015 05:16 AM

The Dewalt is the better saw of the two, it has a much better fence. I don’t think Hitachi quality is what it was in the 90s when they were better made. On the fact of accuracy of the 10 vs 12 inch saw it comes down to blade flex for me. The 12” plate will flex a little more especially when adjusting a cut and slicing a little off for fit. I like a nice heavy plate for the 12” like a Forest chop master and especially not the thin kerfs. The 12” is gonna get you a taller height of cut and a longer cut away from the fence than a 10”. As far as accuracy it depends on how it was dialed in at the factory. I never could understand why they didn’t put an fine adjustment screw on the bevel scale to dial it in.

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#13 posted 09-19-2015 03:25 PM

“I’m not spending $500 on a slider”
The Makita I bought was on sale at HD and the guy on the floor absolutely wanted to sale it to me.
I believe that I paid around $300.00 for it.

-- Bert

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#14 posted 09-20-2015 03:12 AM

Some good endorsements for the Dewalt. Not much discussion over the specifics of the saws. One thing that bugs me about my current saws is that the motor, which is mounted on the side like the Dewalt, is constantly in the way and hitting what I’m trying to cut, or bumping into my hand. I wanted a new chop saw with the motor up and out of the way. The only reason I considered the Dewalt at all is because they are well liked and the price on Amazon is much less than the price in store. I’ve read negative comments about the Hitachi fence before, I’ll take a closer look in person. I’m not a carpenter so my saws will sit stationary in the shop and not be hauled around, usage will be relatively light. The dual bevel seems like a treat to me, my shop is cramped with more space on one side than the other. There are times where I have to move the saw because I can’t flip the wood around to meet the single bevel.

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#15 posted 09-20-2015 11:25 AM

“One thing that bugs me about my current saws is that the motor, which is mounted on the side like the Dewalt, is constantly in the way and hitting what I’m trying to cut, or bumping into my hand. I wanted a new chop saw with the motor up and out of the way. ”
This will not happen with the Makita , the motor is out of the way and it i direct drive: no belt.
You really should have a look at the Makita

LJs reviews:
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/product/105

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obuh1gYay9s

https://www.google.com/search?q=Makita+LS1016L&biw=1280&bih=899&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAgQ_AUoA2oVChMI6ISZ17-FyAIVECuICh0kuAxw

-- Bert

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