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Forum topic by Jimi_C posted 11-16-2009 06:30 AM 4630 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-16-2009 06:30 AM

Topic tags/keywords: dust collector grizzly g8027

Hey all, I’ve got a question about the Grizzly G8027 dust collector. It seems to be a pretty low-power model at just 500cfm, but since I’m just getting started, and I definitely don’t run more than one tool at a time, I’ve been looking at this model because they have it on sale right now for Christmas.

Does anyone have experience with this DC? My primary concern is that it won’t be able to keep up with my jointer (Ridgid JP0610) since the one review I did read mentioned that they had determined a bench top jointer required 400cfm for proper dust collection.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"


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#1 posted 11-16-2009 06:36 AM

Hey Jimi
I usually recommend Grizzly but I saw a sale on HF dust collects on sale for $ 149.00 I saw an ad in American woodworker. I’ve had three separate HF dust collectors for years and they have done a great job.

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#2 posted 11-16-2009 07:07 AM

Thanks Jim, I’ve heard good things about the HF DC, but the only one I see on their website is the 2HP version for $249. Is that an in-store offer only?

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#3 posted 11-16-2009 11:30 PM

Jimi_C, I have a 2hp Central Machinery Dust Collector. Just picked it up at an estate auction for $50.00. Nice machine, I think the only thing that it was used for was for leaves as when I went to put it in the truck, the lower bag was full of leaves and no saw dust. I plan on stashing it in a corner of the garage and piping to it. I found a 4” kit with three 10’ lengths of reinforced hose,2 couplings, three blast gates, 10 clamps and a couple of pickups for another $25.00.
If you check Ebay, there are a couple of 2hp dust collectors for $199.00, looks like they are out of Canada.

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#4 posted 11-16-2009 11:56 PM

even for working 1 machine at a time, I do not recommend the smaller DCs… sure some folks use them, but if I had a choice – and seems like you do – I’d start with at least the 1.5HP-2HP DCs with a good canister – it’s amazing how much more power those units will give you compared to the 1HP units – and your lungs will thank you in the long run as this also works better on the smaller particles. HF DC is one of their Gems, and gets rave reviews. I’d go with that one, no matter how good of a deal you can get on a 1HP DC… it’s just not worth it.

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#5 posted 11-17-2009 01:29 AM

@UnionLabel: I’ve been watching Craigslist, the problem with ebay being that most large equipment sales like that are pickup-only, so not only do you have to find a deal but you have to find one that’s local to you. I really need to start hunting more estate sales though.

@PurpLev: I agree, I was just wondering if this one would be “good enough” for a starter like me – something that would at least be better than the 4HP shopvac I’ve been using. One of the major negatives about this Grizzly version, in my opinion, is that it’s 110V only – I’d prefer to get a 220V if only because I have a spare 220 circuit in my garage, and wouldn’t need to worry about blowing a circuit :)

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#6 posted 11-17-2009 02:34 AM

Is the rating through the blower only or is that with piping etc and how much pipe? It doesn’t take much to knock it below the required 400 cfm for efficient collection.

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#7 posted 11-17-2009 02:38 AM

I wouldn’t be running it through ducts, I’d pretty much just move the hose from tool to tool. I believe for ducting you need 3HP minimum, which is out of my price range for now.

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#8 posted 11-17-2009 06:04 AM

Not sure how much this helps but in the October issue of Woodworker’s Journal there is an ad for Harbor Freight and a coupon applicable to a Central Machine 2HP dust collector, brings the price from $249.99 down to $139.99 valid until 1/1/10….I’m sure it’s in other magazines as well though.

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#9 posted 11-17-2009 03:21 PM

Oh wow, yeah that makes a difference :) Cheaper than the Grizzly, and there’s a HF in town so I could pick it up to avoid the S/H charges. I’d have to pay tax on the Grizzly as well, since they have an outlet here in MO and I live in St. Louis.

I’m going to see if I can find that coupon on line, and if so I’ll definitely do the HF.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#10 posted 11-17-2009 03:56 PM

Dangit, wouldn’t you know it? My wife rocks, and had sent away the order form for Woodworker’s Journal, figuring I’d like it. However, I got the bill a couple of weeks ago and haven’t paid it yet, so I haven’t received a copy of it. I’ve found that coupon online, but it says at the bottom in the fine print they don’t honor web printouts. I’m going to call the local store anyway, and ask them if they’ll take a print out regardless, otherwise I may have to hunt around town for that issue.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#11 posted 11-18-2009 04:38 AM

I called the local HF this morning, and the woman who answered said that yes, they do take printed out coupons, as long as it has the bar code on it so they can scan it. Also, they have 2 in stock… hopefully Friday I’ll bring home a new toy :D

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#12 posted 11-18-2009 04:40 AM

Jimi c,

I have a central dust collection system. It’s trunk line is 6” sch-40 PVC aprox 40’ long with several machines that are reduced down to 4” sch-40 PVC with some 4” flex hose in the needed area. My planer is a 20” spiral cutterhead 5hp wood eating monster. I have 5” flex that comes out of the beast and go’s no more than 3’ up to the trunk line and the system just eats it up for lunch! Seriously I’ve never been so impresed with a dust collection system! The planer is eating an incredible amount of wood about 3/16 sometimes in one pass and thier is just no sign of any dust or chips anywhere but in my DC PERIOD! My 12” jointer is also the same. Thier is a blast gate for everyone of my machines which is about 9 machines hooked up to the DC. This allowed me to open a direct line of suction to the one or two machines we would use at the same time. What ever size shoot that came out of the machine we hooked up that size hose and right up to the main trunkline. The bigger the better! U want volume! Restricting ur dust collector is only necessary for hooking up your machines, other wise get the 6” as close as possible to the machine then adapt with the size pipe or flex hose needed. Yes my system is grounded. I truely believe it matters! At least with PVC, Exspecially with the size pipe and machines producing the dust it does, at least mine do. The bad boy that takes all the dust away from our machines is a 2 hp 1700cfm unit. We just love it!!! Incrediable amount of suction! All in all when u can invest in a stationary system. Like purplev said you and your lungs will love it!

Hope everything works out.

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#13 posted 11-18-2009 04:46 AM

Very nice. Luckily I have a wife who agrees that in a future home, I’ll need a dedicated area for wood working :D I’ll definitely look to do a ducted solution then, for now I’m working in my garage and I’m sick of dealing with dust and shavings.

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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#14 posted 11-18-2009 02:26 PM

I no exactly what u mean jimi, for years I rolled around two shop vacs for any machine I used. What a PAIN! And a mess. Now it’s so nice to just hit two buttons one for the machine and the other for the DC.

Peace.

-- "I don't cut wood. I machine it!" G.M. The wood machinest

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#15 posted 11-22-2009 09:47 AM

Drat. I went to HF Friday night to buy the 2HP DC. I had called earlier in the week and they said they had two in stock, well of course that means one was the floor model and the other had been snatched already. Normally, I’d have tried to get a few more bucks knocked off for taking the floor model, but it looked pretty roughly treated (as did all their floor model tools…), so I’m going to have to wait till Monday. Thankfully I took the week off from work, hopefully the wife will be understanding :) The good news is, the clerk looked at my printed out coupon and said “no problem”, so I’ll be getting the DC for $140. I’m really excited about this, hopefully no more major mess when cutting MDF!

-- The difference between being defeated and admitting defeat is what makes all the difference in the world - Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle"

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