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WayneC

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11-15-2009 07:04 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tool plane ebay stanley

For those looking for used planes. This is a good example of what you should be looking for in an early stanley. Notice the patent dates, frog, mouth, and general condition. I would be concerned that the japanning may have been redone or altered, but this would be a great working plane. There should be examples of these bench planes of this type (Type 11) in all of the sizes Stanley made.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stanley-4-1-2-C-plane-nice-one_W0QQitemZ320446441774QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9c18a92e

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#1 posted 11-15-2009 07:11 PM

I am not a hand tool guy so please excuse my ignorance. What is Japaning?

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#2 posted 11-15-2009 07:13 PM

The black paint on the body of the plane. It is normally baked on when the plane is manufactured. It can chip off over time and repairing it can decrease the collector value of a plane.

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#3 posted 11-15-2009 10:53 PM

So the paint is what is called Japaning, Thanks Wayne.

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#4 posted 11-16-2009 12:51 AM

And this is an example of a very nice working plane but by no means is it an antique. It may or may not be collectible but it dates from the 1930’s or newer. The kidney shaped slot on the lever cap is a dead give away. Stanley went to this design then.

A very nice but not an an antique Stanley

If you are interested in starting a collection of Stanley planes, this is a good place to start.

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#5 posted 11-16-2009 01:21 AM

It does look very nice. I noticed a crack in the tote that appears to be nicely repaired, but it makes me wonder why it’s going for so much.

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#6 posted 11-16-2009 01:33 AM

Looks like an extremely high price to me, $281 and climbing for a common plane.

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#7 posted 11-16-2009 02:19 AM

The $281 one looks to be new. Guessing it is collectors.

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#8 posted 11-16-2009 02:50 AM

$355 now with 3 hours to go. Looks like 2 (maybe less than brilliant) guys with way too much disposable income really want this to look pretty on a shelf and never get used again, pity.

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#9 posted 11-16-2009 02:59 AM

It is not a plane I would choose to use. Think you right Joe.

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#10 posted 11-16-2009 06:12 PM

I have bought several planes via eBay, but I’d say that $355 for a No 4 of that vintage is an awfully high price for a plane dating from the 1930’s.

When I bid on something on eBay, I know from the start what I am willing to pay, and never go a dime higher.

I would hazard a guess that the guy who ‘won’ that auction at $355 got caught up in the emotion of the bidding and lost sight of what the real value of the tool might be.

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#11 posted 11-16-2009 07:54 PM

@papadan & Waynec -

Japaning isn’t a “paint”. It is a varnish that is baked on as a rustproofing coat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontypool_japan

I’ve seen several re-furbished planes where people claim to have re-japaned the metal when all they did was spray some black paint from a rattle can. Nowhere near as tough as the real thing. The example in the top most link does look like it is the original coating. Nice looking example.

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#12 posted 11-17-2009 01:56 AM

rw, Agreed… I just gave a simplified answer.

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#13 posted 11-22-2009 11:44 PM

Just bought a Stanley #4 at antique store in fair condition. What got my eye was that it was made in Canada…were they? Nice plane and still holds a sharp edge. When were they made in Canada Anyone know…?

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#14 posted 11-23-2009 12:03 AM

Wow that is expensive £20 max i payed £10 for my #41/2 granted i had to clean her up but even i know $110 is a lot of money

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#15 posted 11-23-2009 01:08 AM

I was not really looking to indicate that this particular one was a good value, but more what folks should be looking for in a plane relative to condition, patent date, etc. You want to find one of these for $20-$30.

I have seen Canadian examples. I am not sure the year of manufacture. Here is some discussion dating Canadian Stanley planes.

http://forum.canadianwoodworking.com/showthread.php?t=22452

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