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Forum topic by Clarkie posted 09-02-2015 01:03 PM 812 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-02-2015 01:03 PM

Just sitting here thinking about how you can get caught up with needing every new tool you see come down the pike. I think Norm’s show and shows like his contributed a little to this idea. I started out with a 1930’s Craftsman 9 inch lathe and a funky set of turning tools made by them also. Then saw the new Delta lathe, face plates, drill chucks, on and on and on. Pretty soon I had no time for turning, had to spend it getting the latest tool so I could turn, lol. Then one day I saw a show on tv, it was about people in India and how they practiced their trades. Saw two guys turning candle stick holders, the one held the tool and the other pulled on a rope which turned the wood between his feet. Thought rut ro, time to get back to basics. I understand there are tools that make jobs go faster and easier, yet there are tool junkies who get caught up, they have shops full of tools, yet never produce a thing. Have fun, make some dust.

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#1 posted 09-02-2015 01:16 PM

He who dies with the most toys, err tools….
Still dies!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#2 posted 09-02-2015 01:23 PM

It’s a multifaceted hobby that has it’s share of new tool joy, along with build joy. It goes back and forth with me. Sometimes it is indeed about the shiny stuff, but always comes back to working with wood. Good reflection.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#3 posted 09-02-2015 01:29 PM

He who dies with the most toys, err tools….
Still dies!!!

- DIYaholic

Yeah but he died a winner.

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#4 posted 09-02-2015 02:30 PM

The masters of the past did it with hand tools and many of their pieces still survive to this day.

IMHO, advertizing hype promotes and reinforces implied need. It would appear that the “do it fast method” to maximize profit and production to be competitive is at the center of most tool purchases, not that it could not be accomplished without the tool.

-- Respectfully, Paul

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#5 posted 09-02-2015 02:59 PM

Hey Paul, well said… What comes to mind is being able to cut dovetails on four or five drawers faster than it takes to set up for the dovetail jigs. Ever see Klaus do his thing with his chisels?

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#6 posted 09-02-2015 03:04 PM

Very easy solution, “Find the balance” and build a bigger shop! LOL!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#7 posted 09-02-2015 03:49 PM

read once about guys in mexico making planer and jointer knives from the bumpers of cars so they could keep on producing. Much respect. You come on Jocks and tell me you cut your shaper insert steel or jointer knives from the bumpers of a 67 chevy, I will say you are the man. So yes, back to the basics and forget the gadgets.

-- Don't blame me, I voted for no one.

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#8 posted 09-02-2015 05:09 PM

I constantly have to remind my children the difference between need and want. Today’s society is so heavily marketed to many people are no longer able to identify the difference between the two. As I’m sure is the case with the vast majority, needs are almost always taken care of, and there’s still enough left over for a few wants. The real problem is when someone on government subsidies has more (newer, nicer, etc.) than those paying the government to distribute the funds to acquire those wants.

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#9 posted 09-03-2015 02:52 AM

Is that right, Mr. Bigblock? I beg to differ, Sir. We have worked & paid for every tool, fastener, & stick of lumber in our shop. If you’d like,
I’d be happy to send you pictures of what’s in our shop. I’m a retired OTR Truck Driver. I’ve spent the better part of the last 14 years woodworking, & putting together a few used tools for our shop. Being on disability, my yearly income went down 90% of what I was making on the road. My government subsidies, as you put it, don’t even pay our regular monthly bills, much less to support our hobbies. My woodworking helps, at times, pay a couple bills, purchase shop needs, groceries, etc. Most all of our big tools we bought used, & we refurbished ourselves. We rent our 260 square foot shop. Pay utilities for it, just like our home. Our home & vehicles are all paid for, have been for many years. Ya see, I grew up in the trucking business, Mr. Bigblock. Like others on here, I come from an upbringing of not having much more than what we needed, & working our asses off till we dropped. I’m not ashamed to admit the fact that there aren’t any shiny new tools sitting around in my shop collecting dust. I have no desire to own that kind of equipment because I don’t need it. I can do the same work with my old tools as with all that expensive scrap iron, it may just take a little longer. I make some of my tools because I don’t have the government subsidies to run out & buy new ones. I don’t mean to rant Mr. Bigblock, but by the way I read your post, you seem to think that those of us on monthly benefits have it made. I paid my dues, Sir, & refuse to be judged. Believe me, if there was anyway possible, I would rather be trucking, than a crippled up has been. Were I you, I’d be a little more cautious about who you judge, & their situation. We all have demons.

-- Sawdust703

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