PM-V11 Steel - Edge retention qualities - your views please.

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Forum topic by bluekingfisher posted 09-02-2015 11:38 AM 1017 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-02-2015 11:38 AM

I was chewin the fat with another wodworker recently when he mentioned how poor the edge retention was on his single and only Veritas chisel. The steel is the PM-V11 variety ( forget to ask what angle he hones the bevel at) I was surprised at his statement considering the fact he does not work with overly abrasive woods and of course the ‘high tech’ nature of the steel, (which appears to be a closely guarded secret at Veritas).

I’m sure it may just be a one off as I have a couple of small block planes with the Veritas PM-V11 steel irons in place. I have never had cause to doubt the quality or longevity of a sharpened edge on mine, so I told him to contact Veritas and seek guidance.

It did however cause me enough concern to offer the story to LJ’s for their response. So, does anyone have a tale to tell regarding edge retention on -V11 steel.



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#1 posted 09-02-2015 12:20 PM

I suspect your friend is either seeing what he wants to see or he has sharpened a too acute bevel. I have several PM-V11 irons (chisel and plane) and while I like other iron such as O-1 or Japanese White Paper steel better, edge retention is not a problem with PMV-11.

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#2 posted 09-02-2015 12:27 PM

Here is a little info;

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#3 posted 09-02-2015 12:49 PM

I have a set of the Veritas PM-V11 chisels, and find they stay sharp quite a while, as long as I don’t do something stupid.

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#4 posted 09-02-2015 01:02 PM

Thanks boys feedback appreciated.


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#5 posted 09-02-2015 02:31 PM

While I don’t have a PM-V11 chisel, I do have a medium shoulder plane with a PM-V11 blade, and it has been planing tenon end grain without issues. The edge seems to last 2-3x as long as my normal O1 steel plane blades under similar uses.

I’ve been extremely happy with the PM-V11 steel, and I am considering buying a replacement blade for my smoothing plane in the PM-V11 to reduce sharpening frequency.

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#6 posted 09-02-2015 02:46 PM

I have replaced all my Stanley irons with PM-V and recently bought the LA Smoothing plane, think the apron plane might just show up in the shop soon? Sounds like his angles are too high/low? Had the same problem with some Narex Mortise chisels.

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#7 posted 09-03-2015 01:24 AM

Here is a little info;

- bearkatwood

The graphic representation of the data really makes it easy to understand the results of their testing. This is the first time I have seen this. Thanks for posting it.

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