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BradMaynes

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08-31-2015 03:08 AM

Topic tags/keywords: plane sale restoring

First off, I’ve read a ton here as a guest, and there’s some great info and advice here, which I’ve appreciated all of. So I thought I’d ask this here. Not sure it was the right forum, but seemed like best fit.

Today I had the lucky moment we all dream of: an antiques mall visit where someone didn’t know what they had. Today I managed to pick up a Stanley Bedrock 602C (Type 10) for a song. Now, while it would be cool to have one, there are so many things I need more.

Accordingly, the question is: how much cleanup should I do on a plane like this for sale? Some information that may be relevant:

1. I have restored to very good usable status (cleaning, derusting, scary-sharpening) about 6-7 planes at this point.

2. The plane still has a good bit of japanning left (80-90%), bottom is relatively clean, but the sides of the base, the cap iron, the iron, and the lever cap all have some to a bunch of surface rust, but no pitting. Both the knob and tote are in good shape, no cracks.

I’d sure appreciate any advice.


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 08-31-2015 04:05 AM

I’d consult the “handplanes of your dreams thread”

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Texcaster

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#2 posted 08-31-2015 06:18 AM

In the second hand trade you make your money when you buy. It sounds like you have bought well. Sharpen and minimum clean up for me.

-- Mama calls me Texcaster but my real name is Mr. Earl.

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daddywoofdawg

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#3 posted 08-31-2015 08:25 AM

Is it or can it be in a collectors scope,or is it just a nice user.A nice user,clean it up like you’d hope to find it.If you have a collector,clean off the caked on dirt but leave the patina and sell.

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Tim

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#4 posted 08-31-2015 12:07 PM

Sweet score. For planes that aren’t rare, if you’re simply looking to maximize your return, multiple LJ’s have reported ebay buyers tend to pay more for restored and shiny. According to Patrick’s Blood and Gore though, this one is rare: http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan15.htm
Anything Patrick adds a star next to would be something to consider doing only a minimal cleanup on.

Basically some people want things cleaned up, others prefer to have minimal cleaning and restoring or do it all themselves. Which one brings more money every time would be hard to say. Some pictures would help.

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BradMaynes

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#5 posted 08-31-2015 12:22 PM

Thanks for the feedback so far.

TheFridge: I took a look at the (huge) thread you suggested, and it seemed to be mostly just folks posting their dream planes. Is there a specific part I should look at? Or were you just suggesting that this is some people’s dream plane? ;)

Texcaster: Yeah, it was a lucky day. It was $15, for which I’d buy almost any Stanley pre-war plane in this condition.

daddywoofdawg: Based on PB&G (discussed in Tim’s post), I’m pretty sure this is a collector. It isn’t in “virgin out of the box” condition, but still pretty darned good.

Tim: You have eloquently summed up my quandary ;) I am currently leaning towards just minimal cleanup. I think that I do a nice job cleaning and tuning planes, but I KNOW that I don’t live up to the job that some folks on here do. I am worried of the old danger – an inexpert restoration is worse than none at all. I’ll try to post some pics when I get home.

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JayT

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#6 posted 08-31-2015 01:05 PM


Thanks for the feedback so far.

TheFridge: I took a look at the (huge) thread you suggested, and it seemed to be mostly just folks posting their dream planes. Is there a specific part I should look at? Or were you just suggesting that this is some people s dream plane? ;)

- BradMaynes

Brad, the Hand Planes of Your Dreams thread started out that way, so if you were looking at the early posts, I can understand why you would think so. It has actually evolved into a handplane thread for all kinds of questions, pictures, brags or issues relating to handplanes. Posting there will at least get it out in front of most of the LJ’s that are hand plane lovers and someone just might want to make an offer. And yes, a 602C would be considered a dream plane for some, they’re pretty rare. Don’t be intimidated by the length of the thread, just jump in. With pictures, of course. ;-)

And +1 to Tim’s advice. On something like that, minimal cleanup would be preferred by a collector. Like wiping the dust off and nothing else minimal.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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Don W

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#7 posted 08-31-2015 09:10 PM

The 602C is pretty rare and quit collectable. Pictures of the current condition would help. How much cleaning will affect value either positive or negitive really depends on the condition.

In my opionion, the cleaner the plane, the more it usually brings, just as the clearer the pictures are the more money it will bring.

If the japanning is 80-90% I’d clean that up and oil or wax it so it looks good. I wouldn’t strip or remove any finish but I would clean and wax the knob and tote so they look good.

Again, this is based on the asumption that its alrerady in good shape so when I say clean it up, I’m assuming it just needs a little dirt and dust removed.

I agree a lot of collectors would prefer you didn’t do any of that, including me, thats because a dirty plane is a cheaper plane and I can clean it myself.

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lateralus819

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#8 posted 08-31-2015 09:53 PM

GOOD crisp pictures can REALLY sell a plane.

completely disasemble the plane and take photos of all hardware, the bed, frog, handle and knob etc.

Show the buyer what the whole thing looks like. I started making at least 50 percent more just with better pictures.

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Derek Cohen

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#9 posted 09-03-2015 11:36 AM

For very rare planes, do nothing.

For less common planes:

Get rid of the crud, get rid of the rust.

Do not use any abrasives on the metal work.

Do not attempt to make the plane look new.

Just present a clean plane that does not look tampered with.

For common planes: tart up as best as you can!

Regards from Perth

Derek

-- Buildiing furniture, and reviewing and building tools at http://www.inthewoodshop.com

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