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08-28-2015 01:03 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question sanding finishing stain water based oil based flooring floors colors

Hello
I am hoping to benefit from WW pros out there. I would like to stain my floors with white stain, about 600 sqft. I believe this wood floor, 2”, was installed in the 80s over the original pine flooring (from the 1920s). I was looking at Cabot and General Finish. It seems water based stain have more color options and lower voc ( i have a young child)
BUT I was told that water based stains are no good for floors. I have a bout a week end to do this, sand and stain and finish (w/ a water based finish also preferably)
Must I use oil stain?
Thanks
Flavia


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#1 posted 08-28-2015 01:14 AM

Well if no one replies to me I guess I’ll have to chat to myself… bla bla bla wood bla bla bla sanding bla bla bla lumber bla…......

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#2 posted 08-28-2015 01:27 AM

Patience is a virtue. (smiles)

-- "Show respect even to people who don’t deserve it, not as a reflection of their character, but as a reflection of yours."

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#3 posted 08-28-2015 01:35 AM

If the floor was finished prior to your desire to refinish in white, more than likely there will be a problem no matter if you use waterborne or oil. The problem is the removal of the old finish so that your choice of stain will penetrate the wood and yield a consistent even coloration. Further if there are any waxes left on the wood it will cause problems with adhesion in applying your finish top coat as well.

Suggest you contact a top rated flooring refinisher for their recommendations

-- Respectfully, Paul

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#4 posted 08-28-2015 03:43 AM

Hello Paul,
thank you for your advice. I was def thinking of contacting someone but I have learned that to be informed prior to a job helps a lot ..
I was planning on sanding it, then staining it (white) then finishing it… all w/ water based products, as I wrote above, if viable according to my research. Is this not possible? I am attaching a detail of this floor which was finished in the 80s probably and never touched since.
Maybe it will be clearer. Thank you for your input

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#5 posted 08-28-2015 03:43 AM

Hello Cricket, I feel better now :)

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#6 posted 08-28-2015 04:21 AM

As explained above the problem is the removal of the old finish so that your choice of stain will penetrate the wood and yield a consistent even coloration. It should be sanded by a pro as they, if competent, will remove just enough to get below where the previous stain and finish has penetrated giving you a flat clean fresh uncontaminated surface to start your staining etc.

There are a few problems when using a waterborne products/stain; one being it may raise the grain of the wood floor which would have an adverse effect to the look of the floor when you apply the protective top finish if left without addressing the raised grain. The other problem when using a waterborne stain is that it penetrates differently than a oil stain and absorbs into the soft grain stricture of the wood faster and deeper which may result in inconsistence color across the floor which means you may have to use a pre treatment/blotch control before applying the stain.

Today, many reliable floor refinishers do use waterborne products, however, it takes some expertise; this why I suggested that you contact a competent floor refinisher.

-- Respectfully, Paul

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#7 posted 08-28-2015 04:57 AM

THanks Paul. Pending making this decision: WHat is your take on oil versus water based when it comes to time, smell and toxicity? WE cannot vacate the premises more than 3 days.
TIA

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#8 posted 08-28-2015 05:55 AM

Waterborne has an odor, but much less than oil based products. If you ventilate the room you should not have a problem. Keep in mind that in most cases the waterborne usually cures/dries faster. The odors will dissipate over a short period of time, enough to tolerate. Toxicity is grater with oil base fumes as the solvent evaporates during drying and needs plenty of ventilation.

Both waterborne and oil base have some sort of evaporating solvents which flash off but less in waterborne.

-- Respectfully, Paul

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