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Forum topic by Fish22 posted 08-28-2015 12:54 AM 1538 views 1 time favorited 28 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Fish22

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08-28-2015 12:54 AM

I was watching an episode of Rough Cut and Charles was a guest and talking about different finishes. He was talking about a trace coat and after watching twice I am still not sure of the process he used. Is anyone familiar with how Charles does his trace coat, or is it just using a sanding sealer like general finishes Seal A Cell or shellac? I am always amazed at his finishing process and how he teaches, but I feel like I am missing something on this topic since they really keep things moving on the show.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ


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CharlesNeil

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#1 posted 08-28-2015 06:45 PM

Drop me a pm with an email and I will help you out

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DIYaholic

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#2 posted 08-28-2015 06:59 PM

Charles Neil’s Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/InTheWorkshop/videos

I’m sure at least one of his videos will explain trace coats, in more/better detail.

EDIT: Looks like Charles posted while I was typing and beat me to it…. being the good guy that he is!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#3 posted 08-28-2015 07:25 PM

Why not reply here, might be of interest to others.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#4 posted 08-28-2015 07:39 PM



Why not reply here, might be of interest to others.

- Rick M.

+1
I’d be interested also.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#5 posted 08-28-2015 07:42 PM

+2

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Richard

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#6 posted 08-28-2015 07:52 PM

Well after being Accused of not being a Craftsman on this very site , I am amazed that Charles is even looking at it let alone responding. Except for the fact he is an Extremely Talented Craftsman as well as a very nice person on top of it.
Leave him alone Guys and check out his web site , he has some amazing stuff on it and his YouTube channel. :)

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#7 posted 08-28-2015 07:59 PM

”Leave him alone Guys and check out his web site , he has some amazing stuff on it and his YouTube channel”.

Charles is perfectly able to speak for himself. If he doesn’t want to be bothered he’ll tell us.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Richard

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#8 posted 08-28-2015 08:01 PM

”Leave him alone Guys and check out his web site , he has some amazing stuff on it and his YouTube channel”.
Charles is perfectly able to speak for himself. If he doesn t want to be bothered he ll tell us.

- AlaskaGuy


Oh I know he can , that part was just Joking. Just added the Smiley Face for clarification.

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upinflames

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#9 posted 08-28-2015 08:14 PM

What, no one told you his stuff is “top secret”.....can’t share it here, someone will prove him wrong…...google is your friend.

Trace coat is just a light coat of water based dye applied to your piece, then start the sanding process and it let’s you see when it’s smooth, all the “trace evidence” of the dye will be gone. Same thing as using a marker when sharpening a plane blade or chisel.

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#10 posted 08-28-2015 09:04 PM

Wow, are you guys mad that he would prefer to give out advice on more personal basis? Maybe the answer makes more questions or maybe the process is different for different projects. Or maybe it easier to explain once you chat with someone to see what they’re knowledge base is and how to word it so it is understood to the individual. You should be thankful that Mr.Neil is kind enough to want to share his knowledge and experience with people on a forum that he doesn’t know or have any ties to. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth should ring a bell to you all. It’s a shame that you guys have to be so cantankerous(Google is your friend)toward a person who is being helpful and taking time answer a individuals question.

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#11 posted 08-28-2015 09:12 PM



Wow, are you guys mad that he would prefer to give out advice on more personal basis? Maybe the answer makes more questions or maybe the process is different for different projects. Or maybe it easier to explain once you chat with someone to see what they re knowledge base is and how to word it so it is understood to the individual. You should be thankful that Mr.Neil is kind enough to want to share his knowledge and experience with people on a forum that he doesn t know or have any ties to. Don t look a gift horse in the mouth should ring a bell to you all. It s a shame that you guys have to be so cantankerous(Google is your friend)toward a person who is being helpful and taking time answer a individuals question.

- diverlloyd


I don’t think anyone is mad. They just want to learn also. The whole idea behind these forums is to post publicly so many can learn and exchange ideas.

Please explain how these forums could be successful if everyone just PM’d each other?

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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CharlesNeil

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#12 posted 08-28-2015 09:18 PM

It has alot of applications, depending on what your doing, it can be used to create a sanding map, on figured wood it can be used to enhance, figured wood, unfortunately I filmed 3 different videos showing the its application and its uses, and its in my on line finishing class, which I can not make public because its a subscription site, but I will help the op. Your right, I have refrained from forums, had enough of the back stabbing, but Pms work well . always glad to help , and always do , No BS .. If this SOB goes ballistic, pms wont work .. This used to be a really good forum , times do change

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#13 posted 08-28-2015 10:07 PM


”Leave him alone Guys and check out his web site , he has some amazing stuff on it and his YouTube channel”.
Charles is perfectly able to speak for himself. If he doesn t want to be bothered he ll tell us.

- AlaskaGuy

Oh I know he can , that part was just Joking. Just added the Smiley Face for clarification.

- Richard


Wow, are you guys mad that he would prefer to give out advice on more personal basis? Maybe the answer makes more questions or maybe the process is different for different projects. Or maybe it easier to explain once you chat with someone to see what they re knowledge base is and how to word it so it is understood to the individual. You should be thankful that Mr.Neil is kind enough to want to share his knowledge and experience with people on a forum that he doesn t know or have any ties to. Don t look a gift horse in the mouth should ring a bell to you all. It s a shame that you guys have to be so cantankerous(Google is your friend)toward a person who is being helpful and taking time answer a individuals question.

- diverlloyd


I don’t think anybody is Mad either , most of those comments are made in Jest, if you just read them the way they were intended.
At least I know mine was because I have seen many many times that Charles has responded to users on this site with help for their problems. And if I had a Finishing Problem ( and boy do I ever have them) and Charles gave me advice I know I could as they say “Take it to the Bank” for what it is worth and that would be a lot.

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#14 posted 08-29-2015 02:14 AM

I don t think anyone is mad. They just want to learn also. The whole idea behind these forums is to post publicly so many can learn and exchange ideas.

Please explain how these forums could be successful if everyone just PM d each other?

- AlaskaGuy

It wouldn’t be but with the process above it needs to be specific to the project. If op would have stated type of wood,items used then a specific answer would help everyone out. With a broad question a specific answer would do no good to everyone else. As in I can tell you how to rebuild a motor but without saying what motor it does no one else any good. Someone could read through the explanation and try it on their own but have a different type of motor(electric, diesel,v8,rotory,ect). So if I said you had to pull the piston and the reader had a rotory motor he would be searching for a while for a piston in a rotory motor. Same if I said well you need to upgrade the apex seals to 5mm and mix in a bit of oil in your gas to keep the fresh. V8 guy would have some problems with that since I would be talking about a rotory. Or 2stroke and 4 stroke. See with out the specifics of a item the answer to a question maybe just enough to get assuming that it is correct for your situation when it’s not, then you would blame the answerer for being wrong but it’s only wrong for you and not others.

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lj61673

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#15 posted 08-29-2015 02:58 AM



I filmed 3 different videos showing the its application and its uses, and its in my on line finishing class, which I can not make public because its a subscription site, but I will help the op…..This used to be a really good forum , times do change

- CharlesNeil

Ahhhh…. The almighty dollar…..is this some closely guarded secret? Like the recipe for Coca Cola?
No different than that other carnival huckster Rob Cosman. Met him at WIA a few years back, all smiles while the camera was on but wouldn’t give you the time of day when his sales pitch was over.
What a joke.

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