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GFYS

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11-08-2009 11:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question

I was following a thread about the healthcare bill …It disappeared suddenly. Did we get moderated? Was the thread removed for some reason?


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#1 posted 11-08-2009 11:19 PM

When i get together with other woodworking entreprenuers i expect the latest govt policies that affect us to be discussed along with woodwork. Maybe a different title like “Health care reform will further decimate the Woodworking Industry” would make the moderators cut?

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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#2 posted 11-09-2009 12:42 AM

I am sure Martin pulled it.

•Don’t discuss politics and religion, unless it is directly related to woodworking.

is one of the posting rules that the health care post violated.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#3 posted 11-09-2009 12:45 AM

Need a break from all the standing and wood dust? Chat with your Forum Friends about their projects, their life, their philosophies, and get to know each other better. Whether you drink Coffee, or Soda Pop, grab a cup/can, and enter the world of our Forum Coffee Lounge.

dang if I can see where it forbids any topic

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#4 posted 11-09-2009 12:57 AM

Yes, I removed both threads and sent my reasons directly to pashley as well as rob.

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#5 posted 11-09-2009 03:31 AM

I can only guess as to the reasoning behind that. In retrospect I guess it’s to be expected. In such a forum of international interest one cannot really expect persons outside of the USA to take interest in nor suffer the tedious discussions related to purely American issues or values.

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#6 posted 11-09-2009 03:50 AM

I thought each thread had a topic header and you could choose to read it or not…reply or not?

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#7 posted 11-09-2009 06:43 AM

Thank You Martin for keeping this a WOODWORKING site. That is one of the many reasons I like it here.

Scrappy

-- Scrap Wood's the best...the projects are smaller, and so is the mess!

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#8 posted 11-09-2009 10:40 AM

I personally have no complaints about this having been moderated out – Martin’s site – Martin’s rules, Martin Rulez!

But @ mics_54…
I’m outside the US but I am interested in discussions related to issues outside Portugal and outside Europe – the news gives me one version (is it true?), but the people here are “real”, and, at least at some level, “normal”, so those views are interesting, and often informative, for us “foreigners”.
And, as RockyTopScott says, to read or not to read is optional.

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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#9 posted 11-09-2009 04:07 PM

One has to wonder why all the rest of off topic posts arent removed…perhaps it’s a case of poltical bias?

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#10 posted 11-09-2009 04:27 PM

My 2 cents:

Martin knows that political discussions usually turn ugly, eventually leading to individuals taking personal pot-shots at one another. Then the personal differences in politics start pouring over into even non-political posts, as enemies make little digs at each other at every opportunity. Soon, all the infighting starts to make the site an unpleasant place for the other 95% of us, and we go elsewhere. Traffic on the site diminishes, advertising revenue goes out the window, and Martin is out of business.

It is a thin line Martin has to walk. He allows a lot of leeway in the coffee lounge chat, and I certainly cannot blame him for pulling an occasional post when he determines it is in the best interest of the site to do so.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#11 posted 11-09-2009 04:38 PM

Ahh…well that explains it..the censure of lucid discussion of adults nearly twice his age was more a revenue motivation than an ideological one. I totally understand.

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#12 posted 11-09-2009 04:42 PM

That’s a rather extreme interpretation of the situation Dan. Adults understand that not everything should be allowed and the protection of the core takes precedence. Martin has shown both restraint and wisdom and I’m sure age has nothing to do with it.

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#13 posted 11-09-2009 04:44 PM

What are you talking about, Dan? What revenue motivation?

I’d like to refer you to this blog entry posted 564 days ago (before you joined this site) that explains why we had to proceed with posting rules.

As Charlie said this is a very thin line and we all had to deal with it numerous time in the past…

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#14 posted 11-09-2009 04:58 PM

I’m with you Martin. Keep the political BS off the site. I get bombarded with all that from tv and newspapers. That’s one of the things that makes this site such a pleasant diversion. There needs to be somewhere to go to get a rest from all the turmoil. Thank You for this site and the rules you run it by.

-- Darell, Norman, Ok.

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#15 posted 11-09-2009 05:05 PM

Martin, it was charlie that infered that the decision was perhaps motivated by dimminished site traffic..not I.
He stated Soon, all the infighting starts to make the site an unpleasant place for the other 95% of us, and we go elsewhere. Traffic on the site diminishes, advertising revenue goes out the window, and Martin is out of business. I have no idea why the post was removed because you failed to reveal that when asked. I have only pointed out that there are many other posts that are “off topic” and still remain. Guess I shouldn’t have asked. Apparently it’s also a verboten subject.

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