LumberJocks
DAILY DEALS Clampmate Frame Clamp - Internet Only Special!  |  Makita Makita Recon LCT203W 10.8 Volt Lithium Ion Impact Driver 2 Pc Kit

Advice for selecting wood for my table project

« back to Designing Woodworking Projects forum

Forum topic by Chris Moran posted 12 days ago 229 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Chris Moran's profile

Chris Moran

4 posts in 14 days


12 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question

The first major project I really want to attack is to make a gaming table (as in RPG). The main features are that it’ll be hexagonal, have open pockets for holding books and other needed accessories (about 12×12x3), “cup holders/dice containers” and a “glass” (not sure if it’ll be glass or the more likely choice of acrylic or polycarbonate) inset top (etched with a gaming grid on the bottom, possibly lit form the sides of the glass).

I’m still working on designs on paper (I like drafting) and trying to figure out the details and how it will be constructed.

I would like the table to be on the heavier side, but it does need to be able to withstand people leaning on it, rolling dice, moving/dropping metal miniatures and standing up often rubbing up against it.

As for look, I want it to look more on the darker side. I know stain has a lot to do with that, but how important is the wood selection for that aspect?

My skill level is NOWHERE near my ambition. :) So, I worry about either working with tougher wood or spending money on a failed experiment.
I don’t want to spend a lot of money if I can help it. Perhaps if I pull it off quite well with good but cheaper wood, I could sell the original and make a higher quality wood based version, but I’m not clear on that.

So (yes, there was a point) I’d like some advice on what I how I should go about selecting the wood (or woods) I would use for this project. Many projects I see here seem to use all of the good stuff, but in table construction why mixes of nice and vanilla wood stock can be used and how (such as supports that aren’t seen or can be covered by veneer if viable)? After some research, I was quite blown away by how much stuff like maple costs. WAY out of my price range until I have some chops to back up the vision with.
Thanks for any advice/suggestions.
Chris

View Scott Bryan's profile (online now)

Scott Bryan

20518 posts in 712 days


12 days ago

Chris, have you considered using oak as your wood of choice? Oak is relatively inexpensive, I just bought some 4/4 stock from my supplier for $2.00 a bf, it machines easily, is readily available and is hard enough to handle being a table top.

And if you want it on the darker side this is easily done with dyes or stains as oak is pretty easy to color. Here is a cabinet that is in the construction stage in my shop now:

As you can see this is going to be a dark cabinet.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

519 posts in 266 days


12 days ago

Walnut, mahogany, and cherry are typical darker woods, but those tend to be as expensive as maple, and sometimes more depending on where you live. Oak, ash, sassafras, and butternut are all less expensive woods that take stain well.

View notottoman's profile

notottoman

423 posts in 121 days


12 days ago

Chris:
Sounds real ambitious for a first time attempt. But hey, what the heck, with vision and determiniation like you have…...... All the best… Really.
Look—This is an alternative to expensive woods.
Have you thought of verneerd ply or verneerd chip board.. Basically all prepared for you already.
Just a matter of you cutting to size and shape. Double up with normal ply, chip, etc for the underside for weight, sturdiness, thickness.
Easy to work with, not as expensive as solid wood. ( still has to be machined etc) Accepts stains and finnishes well. Easy to replace if damaged…Use hard woods for the edges to give the whole piece a solid look.
Looking forward to your finished project.
All the best.

-- "Even small steps makes a distance." (Shawn Phillips, musician)

View a1Jim's profile (online now)

a1Jim

16474 posts in 468 days


12 days ago

Sounds like a big project , I like wiping stain and it comes in some many dark shades .

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

View Cosmicsniper's profile

Cosmicsniper

49 posts in 49 days


12 days ago

Awesome project! Ol’ time D&D fun. I’m a big WoW player myself though family, jobs, and hobbies kinda puts it on the back burner nowadays.

I agree with Chris. Oak is good, relatively inexpensive, and easily found. It’s also a versatile wood for finishing, either dark or light, depending on your tastes. Likewise, oak plywood works well as a base, though a table may not need much of it, other than the top (trimmed in oak boards and you’ll never know that it is plywood).

I would fill the pores of an oak table top, maybe even with a light pore filler for a pickled look…nice against a dark stain.

Be sure to look at some of the projects here for inspiration. I recall some chess tables that really rocked my world!

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

View davidroberts's profile

davidroberts

234 posts in 376 days


12 days ago

Welcome Chris. Game tables are popular amoung woodworkers. Norm Abrams of the New Yankee Workshop built one a few years ago that was top notch. You can buy plans off his website.

http://www.newyankee.com/

On a more complicated piece that I want to look really nice, I prefer to use or modify a ready made plan rather than reinvent the wheel, so to speak. Norm covered the actual playing area with felt, I think red or green. So the material wood for the playing area could a lesser grade material, such as MDF, masonite, or 3/4” plywood. The money shot is the trim around the playing area that holds the chips and cups. For those areas I would select a wood that takes a dark, rich finish like Scottknots suggested, especially oak or mahogany. And I like agree with Scott Bryan that for the look and price, it is hard to beat oak, white first. Red is fine but you may want to fill the pores. I really really love white oak. Take your time on the miters to get them right, and cut them all at the same time once you get your setup ready. Don’t be afraid to make a shooting board with the proper miter angle to help make the angles near perfect.

On the finish a couple of words here, alcohol will damage a shellac. Oil/varnish goes on well, would probably stand up to abuse and is easy to repair.

My best advise is to start a blog series here on LJs, post pictures (we respond to pictures) , ask questions (we love to answer questions, haha), and have some fun. I’m looking forward to seeing your progress. Remember, it’s all about the journey. Don’t rush, take your time, and you’ll have a straight table. Get it, straight. Ok I’ll stop here.

-- david roberts, houston area, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but that has never been a problem for me."

View davidroberts's profile

davidroberts

234 posts in 376 days


12 days ago

Here’s some inspiration from a fellow LJ’er. Really nice.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/21777

-- david roberts, houston area, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but that has never been a problem for me."

View Chris Moran's profile

Chris Moran

4 posts in 14 days


12 days ago

great responses so far people, thanks. I’m kind picky about these things, which is why I’m starting from scratch. There might be some major customizations that I doubt would be in common plans and the perfectionist in me won’t cut anything until I have drawings that tell me what I want to know.
Here’s an EARLY mockup… 1”:1’; scale made from cardboard and foam core.
Gaming table mockup

The legs are stupid… I’ll figure out them after the top design is solid.

Oak sounds like a perfectly reasonable choice.
What about inside the top? Parts that won’t be seen – supports/framing? Is plywood okay as a vertical support?

View Karson's profile

Karson

25786 posts in 1291 days


9 days ago

Popular is quite often used for under the cover wood. It’s a great hardwood and is easy to use.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

View Labappel's profile

Labappel

6 posts in 7 days


7 days ago

You can also check out this site for some tables.

http://www.homepokertourney.com/tables_free_poker_table_plans.htm

Alot of them are ‘quick and easy’, but give some real nice ideas.

View roman's profile

roman

1106 posts in 784 days


7 days ago

mdf and black paint

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

View Chris Moran's profile

Chris Moran

4 posts in 14 days


7 days ago

Hah!
MDF and black paint. Good one. I guess if I was making it for a gaming store or a dorm room, perhaps… actually, I’m sure that would look fine, especially if glossy… but I want it to look like “adult” furniture for young at heat stuff. ;)

You must be signed in to reply.

  • View all advertisers
  • Advertise with us

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase