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Forum topic by Gixxerjoe04 posted 08-26-2015 02:27 AM 1032 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Gixxerjoe04

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08-26-2015 02:27 AM

Went to woodcraft tonight and finally learned how to sharpen the blade on one of my two planes. Felt good to finally figure that out exactly haha. Anyways, I plan on buying a set a chisels in the future as well and looking for the best bang for your buck water stones that I’ll be able to sharpen both with. I noticed woodcraft has a double sided 1000/6000 grit stone on sale for $30, wasn’t sure if it was something that would work well or not. The guy showed me on a nice 1000 grit one and a $150 16000 grit stone, but not trying to spend that much. Suggestions? Also looking for chisel suggestions as well.


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 08-26-2015 02:35 AM

Chisels? Maybe a set of Stanley 750s.

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#2 posted 08-26-2015 03:09 AM

I have found these to be really great chisels – Mk2 Beveled Edge Bench Chisels by Ashley Iles (https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/dept/TBBC/item/IL-100-40.XX) Get just the sizes you need – if you get a set you’ll have ones you never use. Can’t go wrong starting with a 1/2 inch.

IMO this is the best bang for your buck as far as water stones go – King Versatile 1000x Water Stone
(http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32455&cat=1,43072,67175,67177&ap=1)
for initial grinding

King 8000x Gold Stone
(http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=33019&cat=1,43072,67175,67177&ap=1)
for a finish polish stone

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Combo Prof

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#3 posted 08-26-2015 03:14 AM

You must be talking about:
King Combination Waterstone 8” x 2” x 1” 1000/6000 Grit

I like stones that are at least 3” wide.

I buy my sharpening supplies from http://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/

Excellent prompt service.

I like my Stanley 750 bench chisels, and I like my Norton Mortise chisels, but I really like my vintage firmer Buck chisels.

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WoodNSawdust

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#4 posted 08-26-2015 03:33 AM

Water stones were quickly. You might want to consider diamond stones.

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crank49

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#5 posted 08-26-2015 04:05 AM



Water stones were quickly. You might want to consider diamond stones.

- WoodNSawdust


Think you meant “Water stones wear quickly.”

Not trying to be the grammer police here; just trying to help.

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#6 posted 08-26-2015 04:08 AM

I have an old Norton 1000/8000 which is very good and I use 90% of the time, did but a set of 1000 and 10000 from Lie Nielson last year for a lot more $ but so far have gotten limited use? When buying a water stone make sure to have a flattening stone to keep the stones flat. I have the diamond one from Lee Valley, worth every penny!
The new Stanley SW are nice but the old 750’s are a lot better chisel, but then again the Two Cherries are IMHO just a higher up on the scale? If I was to start all over I would go with the new Lee Valley PMV-11.

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TheFridge

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#7 posted 08-26-2015 04:18 AM

I have one 1/2” lie Nielsen chisel. It is the best thing since sliced bread.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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rwe2156

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#8 posted 08-26-2015 11:58 AM

I recommend reading the Fine WW’ing chisel review and make your own decision based on what you plan on doing.
Some people have a general “user” set of chisels and a nicer set for stuff like dovetails, so it depends.
I have a set of Irwin blue handles for general use and a set of Narex premiums for joinery.

The side bevel height is the mark of a fine chisel.

FWW lists the Narex as the best value. I have a set and I am very happy with them. Be prepared to spend some time flattening the backs.

I have one 750 and I wasn’t that impressed. The chisel is too light for my taste and I don’t think the edge holds up as well as the Narex.

If you go with the Narex, be ware there are different lines the handles are different. You want to make sure you get the “premiums” because the side bevel height is lower.

I think one option is to just buy one chisel, like a 3/8” or 1/2” in a couple different brands and try them out.
You can always convert them to low angle chisels for softwood.

As far as the stone, that’s a good deal on the 1000/6000 and it should do fine for honing.
Personally, I have a Norton 4000/8000 and set of DMT duo-sharps plus a couple coarse water stones.

If I had it to do over, I think I’d go with the Shaptons.

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bluekingfisher

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#9 posted 08-26-2015 02:37 PM

Diamond plates every time – a course 320 grit, smooth 1000 grit and an 8000 extra smooth plate will take care of all your needs and will shave the hair on your arm. No need to strop, no flattening of water stones and no rust issues if you use a light oil such as baby oil.

David

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#10 posted 08-26-2015 07:07 PM

On my DMT diamond stones I use a 50/50 mix of water and Simple Green concentrate.
No rust easy clean up. If you put a magnet inside of a sandwich back, you can easily clean up swarf.

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#11 posted 08-26-2015 07:17 PM

“If you put a magnet inside of a sandwich bag, you can easily clean up swarf.” – <—->s a brilliant tip!

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Gixxerjoe04

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#12 posted 08-27-2015 01:11 AM

Thanks for the help, might just get one or two then at the moment. I don’t plan on learning to cut dovetails or anything right now, wanting to do some butterfly keys and not sure what else at the moment. The never ending learning and spending game of woodworking haha.

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