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Forum topic by Tim Dahn posted 11-06-2009 12:43 AM 6628 views 0 times favorited 60 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tim Dahn

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11-06-2009 12:43 AM

As I was making a cut the other night I saw something out of the corner my eye, after I shut the saw off I stood there in disbelief. Can you see it?

Maybe from the front.

or the back a little closer.

Yep, cracked, completely through…........... :/
I called Ridgid and told them the table top was cracked, the person I spoke with did not hesitate at all, warranty. The local service guy has ordered a new top, when it comes in I can stop by and pick it up. Just thought I should pass on this not so comforting news.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.


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#1 posted 11-06-2009 01:29 AM

Too bad, I often wondered how those granite tops would hold up.

That narrow section must not be strong enough.

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#2 posted 11-06-2009 02:54 AM

Me too. The narrow portion seems to be the weak link.

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#3 posted 11-06-2009 03:25 AM

Man that sucks and the all of the work that you have to do to install and align the new table top. To bad that’s not covered under warranty.

Let us know how it turns out!

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#4 posted 11-06-2009 04:03 AM

Until the crack gets worse or has a negative effect on performance, I probably will leave the original top on.

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#5 posted 11-06-2009 04:03 AM

@ChunkyC

It appears to me that he’s saying that it IS covered under the warranty.

I’ve had my doubts about this table saw. I’m a fan of the Ridgid TS3650 and I seriously considered buying this saw but that table top and a few other factors convinced me to pass on it.

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#6 posted 11-06-2009 04:05 AM

@Timbo

That may be a good idea if they don’t require the old top to be returned..

I’m pretty sure that top can be repaired with the same epoxy that is used in joining granite counter tops.

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#7 posted 11-06-2009 04:13 AM

The top and installation are warranty, installation does not include lining up the top/blade/fence/miter. Don’t see them wanting to pay freight charges to get the top back.

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#8 posted 11-06-2009 05:24 AM

So are you saying that they are going to deliver the new top to your shop, pull the damaged top off and install the new one for you? If so, now that’s service! I’m certain that the place were I purchased my saw wouldn’t do all of that. “Here’s you new top Chuck, have a ball getting the old top off and the new one on all by yourself.”

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#9 posted 11-06-2009 01:15 PM

Yes ChunkyC that is what Ridgid will do, pull the damaged top off and install the new one. I am electing to pick up the top and do it myself at a later time.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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#10 posted 11-06-2009 01:59 PM

Timbo, sorry to hear about the crack in your top. As Rick suggested, epoxy can be used on granite for repair, however I think it would only cover the surface of the crack and so it would only be a cosmetic repair.

I’m kinda thinking that if the crack relieved whatever stress was on the top, then that may be all you ever see
from it but it sure will be nice to have the extra top on hand just in case!!!

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#11 posted 11-07-2009 03:24 AM

I may test that theory Cato, if the crack doesn’t change I probably won’t change the top. I picked up the new top this evening.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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#12 posted 11-07-2009 03:31 AM

I haven’t seen what the support looks like under that granite. Is it good enough? Seems like you’d need as much steel as a regular table saw to support the granite on top of them? I don’t know about these granite tops seems a little counter intuative. If the crack formed there that would tell me that it wasn’t supported well enough to keep it from doing so? Which would mean that now your table might have an upside down v shape to it ( very subtle though). Just my thoughts, I’d love to look up her skirt and see how she’s built…hehe

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#13 posted 11-12-2009 03:59 PM

I would guess that ther was some torque pressure from the frame through the top. Does a straight edge sit flat across the cracked top

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#14 posted 11-12-2009 04:18 PM

First, let me say I love Ridgid tools. I have a TS3660 table saw, their 13” planer, and a miter saw. And it sounds like they really stepped up to the plate in taking care of this problem.

I’ve got to say,though, I’ve been very skeptical about the whole idea of granite-top tools for this very reason.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#15 posted 11-12-2009 04:43 PM

Sorry the top cracked, Timbo. I am off to pick up a 4511 tomorrow, and this scares me a little (Okay, maybe a lot!). The most important question here, I think, is Why did it crack?

I certainly wouldn’t do any replacement until I had an answer.

Was it torque, lack of support, too little material (granite) to support the table, did some debris or tiny object create a pivot point between the frame and the top, or was it some defect in the material?

As I said, Scary!

Please let us know if you learn anything.

Thanks for sharing,

Matt

-- You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture; just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury

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