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Proflemoi

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08-22-2015 09:28 PM

Hello All,

After MONTHS of research, reading up on different CNC topics etc, I have finally narrowed down my choice of CNC machine to either the CAMaster Stinger 1 or the Legacy Explorer 2. The CAMaster has a 25×36x5 range and the Explorer 2 has a 25×50x4 Range. I have chosen both of these as my finalists because they are of welded steel construction, the support groups for both are excellent, they are fairly close in price, meet the minimum size I need and both are MADE IN THE USA. (Just to name a few) BUT it would help a lot to hear some of your thoughts and experiences to help make the final choice.

I plan on doing lots of Inlay work, furniture making,(Coffee Tables, Blanket chests, side tables, etc., 3D work, Relief carvings, and other types of small things like frames, cribbage boards, cutting boards, etc…

I plan on working with Vectric Aspire, but MAY be forced to start with V-Carve Pro for awhile. I will also be starting out with a router but plan on upgrading to a Spindle as soon as i can get my shop up to 220v and I sell a few more of my pieces.

I am looking to put this into a production situation so a machine I can run all day is a factor as are production speeds.

I know there are so many more variables but I am curious as to what everyone thinks.

ANY input would be most appreciated!

Regards,
ProfLemoi

-- Probotix Asteroid


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dannelson

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#1 posted 08-24-2015 11:34 AM

Im happy with my camaster, but the wait for the machine is a killer. 9 weeks for mine. I looked at Legacy because I liked the tutorials and on line classes along with the rotary stuff. But I thought the machine was lacking and with everything I wanted on a machine they were way to pricey for what you got. That being said all the tutorial things are on line you just have to dig around for them. Another thing to look at is how close to your location are owners of the machines your interested in located ? This will be a big help Believe me.

-- nelson woodcrafters

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bearkatwood

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#2 posted 08-24-2015 11:44 AM

I look forward to hearing more on this thread as I am juxtaposing the same two critters for my shop. I too am thinking the camaster might be the better machine. Thanks for bringing this up. Have fun making wood chips today.
Brian

-- Brian Noel

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helluvawreck

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#3 posted 08-24-2015 03:35 PM

I’ve decided on a Camaster but I am going to wait until I get my laser engraving business going well. I like the machine but the other thing is that it’s nice to have Camaster in my home town. I ride right by the place about 3 or 4 days a week. I’m hoping to be able to make it happen at the next machinery show in Atlanta.

BTW, welcome to Lumberjocks.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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Proflemoi

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#4 posted 08-24-2015 06:47 PM

Thanks Guys…. your input is helpful. I have a call into Camaster and with some luck they will get back to me sooner rather than later. I like to look of the Camaster for sure, seems a better built machine, more commercial grade, even though it is a smaller XY range. (Explorer 2 has 25×50)

QUESTION: Camaster does not list any shipping costs. Anyone know if there is a shipping charge? Legacy has free shipping…

-- Probotix Asteroid

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Proflemoi

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#5 posted 08-24-2015 06:48 PM

Brian… wonderful to hear someone else is considering the same 2 machines as I am. :)

-- Probotix Asteroid

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Proflemoi

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#6 posted 08-24-2015 11:46 PM

Just heard back from Camaster, $600 shipping (Ouch) and about a 4 week turn around until it ships.

-- Probotix Asteroid

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bearkatwood

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#7 posted 08-24-2015 11:51 PM

Try shipping 18 chairs across country to New Jersey. $600 is a deal, still ouch! 4 weeks isn’t too bad if it’s worth the wait though.

-- Brian Noel

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Proflemoi

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#8 posted 08-25-2015 12:08 AM

I agree Brian.. the shipping is a killer. I am thinking the Camaster is the better choice, the thing looks to be built like a tank. BUT I keep going back and forth… 50” range on the Explorer 2. BUT with the Spec. I have, I can get the Legacy Explorer 2 with Aspire for $100 more than the cost of the Camaster with VCarve Pro. THIS is what I am struggling with… larger capacity and Aspire for $100 more than the Camaster with VCARVE PRO V8. Is the camaster THAT much better than the Legacy….. UGGGGG to justify taking the lesser specs and the lesser software package.

This stuff could make one crazy ;)

-- Probotix Asteroid

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bearkatwood

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#9 posted 08-25-2015 12:17 AM

Thankfully I am not ready to buy yet.. I will let you go first and maybe I can learn from your mistakes. ;) Just joking, I know you will get just the perfect one…maybe… Let me know how it goes.

-- Brian Noel

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Proflemoi

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#10 posted 08-25-2015 01:41 AM

Thanks Brian… same luck to you as well… chances are I will be ordering either of the 2 this weekend…. so another few days of weighing the options and I will place the order. I will CERTAINLY let you know how it goes. What about you… ordering soon?

Hope to have a few more people weigh in as well :)

ProfL

-- Probotix Asteroid

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Proflemoi

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#11 posted 08-25-2015 10:37 AM


I ve decided on a Camaster but I am going to wait until I get my laser engraving business going well. I like the machine but the other thing is that it s nice to have Camaster in my home town. I ride right by the place about 3 or 4 days a week. I m hoping to be able to make it happen at the next machinery show in Atlanta.

BTW, welcome to Lumberjocks.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

Thanks Charles! I would love to see one of those shows but I live in CT… a bit too far for me to travel.

-- Probotix Asteroid

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Proflemoi

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#12 posted 08-25-2015 11:13 AM

Any of you with the Camaster Stinger 1 finding the 25×36x5 size limiting you?

-- Probotix Asteroid

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bearkatwood

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#13 posted 08-25-2015 12:13 PM

My opinion is to think about how much you will need and then add at least another third again. So if you want a 900 square foot shop go with at least a 1200, if you want a 1.5 horsepower router, better get at least 2. I looked at the stinger 1 and it would work, might be tight for some projects and it just doesn’t have the beef the stinger 2 does. I think that will be the machine I go with. I need to add on to the shop to make it fit, but that is what will happen within the year.

-- Brian Noel

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#14 posted 08-25-2015 11:18 PM

I have made several things longer than my stinger using Vectric’s tiling feature. However, I regularly make things on it that would not fit under the explorer’s gantry. You really need to determine, if you can, what you will be making and pick the most appropriate machine. I say if you can because I am making products now that I did not envision at the start.

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Proflemoi

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#15 posted 08-27-2015 08:55 PM

I could not agree more…. I am going with the Vectric Aspire software… I have spent a lot of time on the videos and working with the trail version and I like the software a great deal.

Just curious… is anyone doing any type of joinery with the Camaster Stinger 1? Since I make a lot of furniture I want to be able to make dovetails, box joints, etc…

-- Probotix Asteroid

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