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Forum topic by DKV posted 08-21-2015 10:20 PM 3565 views 0 times favorited 111 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DKV

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08-21-2015 10:20 PM

Over the years there have been a few posts on here reminding us all to unplug when changing blades, bits, etc. Yesterday I was changing the bit in my router table and remembered I hadn’t unplugged. I started to think about that thought. In ten plus years of woodworking I have never, ever had a piece of equipment turn itself on. Never…ever. I’m betting we have a better chance of being hit by lightning or dying in an auto accident than losing a finger or two in a machine that has magically turned itself on. Not only turned itself on but right at the moment we are changing a blade or bit. Should we quit dancing in the rain or driving to the store? What are the odds? Let’s hear from the Safety Sallys out there…

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nailbanger2

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#1 posted 08-21-2015 10:24 PM

What are the odds it turns itself on if it’s unplugged? Whatever, they’re your fingers.

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#2 posted 08-21-2015 10:29 PM

I have never had a piece of equipment magically turn itself on, but I have had a switch failure that failed in the on position. Reached down and flipped the switch on my old Delta contractor saw to off and it kept on running. Flipped the switch back and forth and it just kept running like the Energizer Bunny. I can well imagine a switch that is about to fail like that being bumped as you change the blade and all of a sudden the saw is on.

Do I always unplug? No. Should I always unplug? I believe so.

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bondogaposis

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#3 posted 08-21-2015 10:35 PM

The odds are very slim, but the consequences are severe, so it’s your call.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#4 posted 08-21-2015 10:41 PM

What are the odds of getting hit by a car, crossing the street? Better not cross. Better not fly, or eat oysters, or enjoy a fine cigar, either…

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#5 posted 08-21-2015 10:46 PM

Not sure where you may be going with this but…

I don’t worry about equipment “magically turning on”

We had our grandson over for the weekend. I was sanding and did not hear him come in my shop. I did hear him turn on the band saw. No one hurt. Shop is not baby proofed. Maybe just another reason for it being a good practice.

I’ve never heard of an accident discussed in terms of it being smart or unavoidable.

-- Nicky

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DKV

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#6 posted 08-21-2015 10:49 PM



What are the odds it turns itself on if it s unplugged? Whatever, they re your fingers.

- nailbanger2


Probably about the same…

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DKV

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#7 posted 08-21-2015 10:50 PM



What are the odds of getting hit by a car, crossing the street? Better not cross. Better not fly, or eat oysters, or enjoy a fine cigar, either…

- Smitty_Cabinetshop


I agree…

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#8 posted 08-21-2015 10:57 PM


What are the odds of getting hit by a car, crossing the street? Better not cross. Better not fly, or eat oysters, or enjoy a fine cigar, either…

- Smitty_Cabinetshop

The odds of getting hit crossing a street blind at a jog without slowing down are a lot higher than if you look both ways before you run out into traffic. They are your fingers and you can do what you want but for me the couple seconds it takes to unplug a machine doesn’t seem like a big deal given the risk if lightening does decide to strike that one time and you bump into that switch just right to turn it on.

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Blackie_

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#9 posted 08-21-2015 11:21 PM

I think it depends on the machine, A router bit change no, but a bandsaw might be a different story, after saying that I’m going to continue playing it safe.

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#10 posted 08-21-2015 11:29 PM

I can count the number of times that one of my machines has accidentally started on one hand – oh, wait, make that two hands.

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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upinflames

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#11 posted 08-21-2015 11:36 PM

I think the odds are astronomical, in both my shops the large machines are hard wired, the smaller stuff is plugged in. In 37 years, not a single machine has ” magically turned on” by itself or “accidentally hit the switch”.

If you’re worried about hitting the switch accidentally it may be time to rethink where it’s mounted….but then again, I did not stay at the holiday inn last night…....

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#12 posted 08-22-2015 12:13 AM

What are the odds? Probably better than one outta 10 …
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DKV

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#13 posted 08-22-2015 12:16 AM



What are the odds? Probably better than one outta 10 …
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- JoeinGa


Someone has to hit the jackpot.

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#14 posted 08-22-2015 12:25 AM

Yeah, Buddy! High Five!!! Wait, I mean …
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#15 posted 08-22-2015 01:21 AM

Bottom line,... “you got to asked yourself, Do ya feel lucky punk. Well do ya.”

Or as another cultural Icon once said , “stupid is as stupid does.”

It only takes an extra second or 3 to do it right.

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