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Forum topic by bill merritt posted 11-05-2009 05:48 AM 1204 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bill merritt

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11-05-2009 05:48 AM

Does anyone know who makes the table saw that stops when it hits skin?And if it really works.

-- Bill Merritt -Augusta Ga. woodworker


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patron

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#1 posted 11-05-2009 05:56 AM

SawStop ( brand name )

works on the inventors finger ,
and on hot dogs .
put it in the search window upper right ,
and hit search ,
it’s all there .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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LesB

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#2 posted 11-05-2009 05:59 AM

It is a real finger savor but after it saves you finger be prepared to spend about $300 to repair the saw.

-- Les B, Oregon

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drfixit

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#3 posted 11-05-2009 06:14 AM

I think i would rather spend the $300 than face the alternative

-- I GIVE UP!!!! I've cut this @!&*!% board 3 times.... its still too short!

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#4 posted 11-05-2009 06:33 AM

LesB, it’s more around $60 plus the cost of the blade, so it comes around half what you said. How many thousands of dollars does an ER finger/hand amputation costs, by the way? Add to that the loss of profit and ancillaries… Hum, seems fair enough to me.

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Bothus

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#5 posted 11-05-2009 06:40 AM

We have had a Saw Stop at the shop for about two years and it has saved 5 or 6 fingers so far.

It cost’s us about $75 to replace the mechanism after each incident.

Of course it would be even cheaper than that if we could just convince the guys not to take the guard off.

Bothus

-- Jerry Boshear, Professional Kitchen Designer, amature woodworker.

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#6 posted 11-05-2009 01:19 PM

Bill, I can tell you that the technology works. I did not hit a finger but I was running some test cuts while setting up a dado on my saw and inadvertently hit a brad which tripped the brake on my saw. I came as close as I have ever been to crying (this was a $250 dado stack) but fortunately only a couple of chippers needed to have some carbide replaced.

Replacing the brake cost $69 and getting the chippers repaired cost $30 but it proved the technology works and I really did not mind the expense since this is what the saw is designed to do.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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mski

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#7 posted 11-05-2009 02:16 PM

My wife went to th ER to get 5 stiches in her finger from cooking, AFTER insurance it was $987.50.
We saw the hot dog demo at woodcraft it works, another misslooked feature is if you have your finger on the blade the saw will not start

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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herg1

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#8 posted 11-05-2009 02:42 PM

$150 compared to 987.50 plus pain/discomfort and time lost —a no brainer. It is cheap at twice the price.

-- Roger1

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#9 posted 11-05-2009 07:17 PM

So, here you are singing “Hallelujah” to the SawStop and from the other hand, what do you answer or advise to this guy http://lumberjocks.com/topics/11359... and there are so many like him on the net every day….

And that means that the SS is for rich….you don’t have money ?
1. You’ll pay the ER (and change your life in a second)...or;
2. Don’t “play” with woodworking…
3. And there is another way…...

I would advice the $300 guy…”Use correct techniques” i.e. Splitter/riving knife, blade guard (I would throw away the “anti kickback pawls”), Blade guard, Featherboard, Push sticks and for ripping, Short fence and no, there is no “Only this time” use it all the time…

I posted the pic below a few days ago but I’ll post it again and ask again…why do I need a SS if my fingers are never around the blade (or as I call it “Pass your fingers VERY CAREFULLY 1/8” from the blade)....

This subject was already “milled” at least “zillion” times in every forum including the Aussie, UK, Canada) and, a very populare reply is; “Of course I’m not going to change my SAFETY TECHNIQUES just because I have a SS – just like I’m not going to change my driving habits just because I have an Air-bag”......
Well….maybe your “Safety Techniques” are not so good and that’s the reason that you want to buy SS…

Do you think that I need a SS….......
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On every forum that I read a “SawStop” post, it looks to me that “No entry to poor guys” (or “look how the rich guys are making SAFE woodworking”) and it’s again and again an “Hallelujah” (or kind of advertisement) to the SawStop…

Work safe
niki

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LesB

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#10 posted 11-05-2009 10:46 PM

I’m not knocking the Saw Stop. It is a great safety item for those who need a new saw and can afford it. I don’t think we stop doing wood working because we have limited resources.
I guess I MUST BE USING THE CORRECT TECHNIQUE because after 40+ years of using all kinds of saws the only one I have been injured by was a band saw; cutting a rough piece of wood that turned in my hand and pinched the blade and pulled my hand towards it. Fortunately it was a minor injury, just 8 stitches. Band saws can be nasty and your hands are very often close to the blade but I have never heard anyone comment on the hazard they pose. Just ask any long time butcher or meat processing employee about missing digits from bandsaws.

Using power tools can be dangerous so WORK SAFELY.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#11 posted 11-05-2009 10:59 PM

It is not the cost of the repair after the saw trips( as designed it it is designed to ) but the Extra $1800.00 upfront cost of the Sawstop over the Grizzley 690 that causes me hesitation . What it comes down to is, is the insurance cost of $1800 for the possible hand injury worth it. I cannot afford insurance to cover every conceivable mishap, so it again becomes a question as to the feasibility of insuring. I am still open but am leaning toward the G690 and using the safety items included, Your thoughts are welcome.

-- With each new day, celebrate life. Love God with all of your heart. Share Jesus with those around you and make a positive impact on those you meet. Bob

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bill merritt

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#12 posted 11-05-2009 11:41 PM

Thanks everyone for your answers on this (for some reason touchy) subject. I for one have made my mind up,after almost 50 years in construction I feel I can do that. Yesterday I went to emergency room and the bill will easily pay for a SS. So Niki I hope you never know that feeling, but in my case the cut was made. So all the ad ons would not help.But this is not a place to accuse each other but to help and inform, lets try that. I have seen some rather unfriendly post lately,and thought what a waste of a good resource. Thanks again for the response.

-- Bill Merritt -Augusta Ga. woodworker

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