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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574511913680817266.html

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#1 posted 1500 days ago

I wonder if there has been any noticeable difference in either companies products since this was posted?

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#2 posted 1500 days ago

I hope they didn’t settle for a happy medium re: quality.
Black and Decker was pure crap, IMHO.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#3 posted 1500 days ago

The deal has been done for quite some time, and I have not noticed a single difference. Don’t forget, Black and Decker was Black and Decker, Delta, Porter-Cable and DeWalt.

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#4 posted 1499 days ago

This announcement was made sometime late last year (last quarter). As far as quality is concerned, I don’t think we’ll see all that much change. Most everything is built offshore these days anymore. Lower prices, don’t you know. Along with that something (guess what) has to give.

If all these companies were to come back to the USA, we wouldn’t be able to afford a new set of screwdrivers.

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#5 posted 1499 days ago

I’ve noticed at some of the big box stores that the old Delta benchtop jointer, portable planer, and bandsaw have all been rereleased as Porter Cable products. They look like exact copies except there’s a bit of a price jump. It definitely seems to be a step down.

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#6 posted 1498 days ago

A few months ago I bought a Delta drill press at Lowes that was on a clearance sale. Yesterday I noticed that there are no Delta stationary tools at Lowes anymore. I also noticed a Porter Cable drill press that is very inferior to my Delta and it costs as much as the regular price was on the Delta I bought.

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#7 posted 1498 days ago

Here are the brands Stanley owns:
http://www.stanleyblackanddecker.com/products-services/our-brands

It really bothers me that they bought Facom , the French equivalent of Snap-on tools. Facom used to own Mac Tools.

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#8 posted 1498 days ago

Thanks for finding that list b2rtch. That really helps see the big picture.

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spclPatrolGroup

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#9 posted 1498 days ago

I. for one, welcome our new tool overloads.

-- Dave, from ND "The mind is an infinitely long workbench, and its cluttered with half-finished thoughts and ideas, sometimes we need to clear off the workbench and start again from step one."

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#10 posted 1497 days ago

For everyone who didn’t read the details (it was in the business news)Under the terms of the buy out The B&D CEO RETAINED HIS POSITION FOR 2 YEARS at which time the Stanley folks will have full charge. from the top down. Note that this is the same big boss that has been running things into the ground, quality wise, for the previous 23 years. This is roughly the time that B&D went from being a decent low priced tools to the crap that they are today. I hope that in time the Stanley folks will bring the B&D stuff with their business history which appears to be that their stuff is worth about what you pay for it.

-- RTB. stray animals are just looking for love

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#11 posted 1495 days ago

Every tool manufacturer in this country has gone through various periods of producing poor quality tools, from B&D to Milwaukee to Stanley. Those companies that didn’t compromise quality were eventually swallowed up by another company or just disappeared altogether. Hundreds of manufacturers of some of the finest tools have disappeared. A few that come to mind are Millers Falls, Utica and Atkins. Almost all if not all the tools are now made in China. Even such names like L.S. Starrett are made in China. If you want quality today, you are going to have to buy German. You will have to pay a steep price, but if quality is #1 on your list of priorities, then German is the way to go.

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#12 posted 1495 days ago

The Stanley/B&D merger worries me. They are so diversified that they can divest themselves at a moments notice of any division that is unprofitable.

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