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rhett

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10-31-2009 05:42 PM

I have to vent here about a current situation I have encountered. The situation is this, a fellow woodworker I know has decided to post pics of very nice and very complicated studio furniture pieces on his facebook “business” page. No big deal, right? Well they are pieces by other woodworkers, and by not speciyfing they are not his, others assume he made them. I can only assume he has the skill set to actually build these pieces he is indirectly taking credit for. When confronted on his most recent picture, a very nice dresser a friend of his made, he said “I cut the arches”. He then changed the avatar.
If you do not design, cut and finish a piece, it does not belong in your portfolio for you to take credit for! I don’t care if you “could” build it or not. The point is, you didn’t. If any old woodworker could fill their portfolio’s with work they “could” build, then there would never be any record of ones actual skill level. Words cannot describe how upset I would be to find out someone was taking credit for my designs and long hard hours of work in my shop.

-- It's only wood.


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papadan

1156 posts in 2091 days


#1 posted 10-31-2009 06:16 PM

I actually had someone post pictures of one of my projects. He didn’t know I was a member of that site and already had the same project posted a year earlier. He disappeared from that site and another that he knew I was on.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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huff

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#2 posted 10-31-2009 06:28 PM

rhett, I know how you feel….this really burns me. My shop did a complete house full of cabinets for a client.(kitchen, vanities, buffett, home entertainment center, home office and more). A couple years later he decided to open a woodworking shop and used all the pictures from his house in his portfolio. One of his employees told me about it, that he was telling his clients this is the “type” work he did. Never said he built it, just let them assume he did. That’s a flame that still burns my butt. Started his business off my hard work. Sorry, didn’t mean to blow off like that, but thanks for the post and bringing it to everyone’s attention. That’s just sorry as far as I’m concerned.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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blockhead

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#3 posted 10-31-2009 07:03 PM

I can only imagine how frustrated and ticked I would be. Even if I use a small element in a project that I saw somewhere else, I will give credit for it. I guess in a roundabout way, it’s a compliment that someone else would like your work enough to want to call it their own. But that doesn’t help any. Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending how you look at it, I won’t have that problem for awhile. (: ):
By the way rhett, you do have some great stuff! Very beautiful work!

-- Brad, Oregon- The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

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bruc101

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#4 posted 11-01-2009 01:00 AM

You can stop most people from stealing your images and or designs by using a code on your web pages. Some people can get around the the code if they know how. It doesn’t work in all browers but does in 99% of them. It’s called a “slient no right click” script. You right click on an image or a page and nothing happens.
My friend that’s putting up a free plans site is using it and we use it on my business sites also.
All you have to do is go to the HTML part of each page on all your pages and copy and paste the code into the<body> part of your HTML pages, save and then publish to your hosting site. Also be sure to Copyright your images and pages. We had some images stolen from us and a friend just happen to see them one night and called me. I sent an email to the site and ask them to please remove our Copyright images from his site or we would seek legal action against him. They were off his site the next day and we put this script on all of our pages.
The script will look like this:
<body> so paste below the <body>

-- Bruce http://plans.sawmillvalley.org http://www.sawmillgirls.com

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Karson

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#5 posted 11-01-2009 01:05 AM

It’s great that you can block someone else from posting your pictures.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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bruc101

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#6 posted 11-01-2009 01:05 AM

WOW neat, can’t copy and paste in here!..If anyone wants the code PM me and let me know how to conatact you and I’ll send it to you.

-- Bruce http://plans.sawmillvalley.org http://www.sawmillgirls.com

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cstrang

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#7 posted 11-01-2009 01:16 AM

Nothing gets to me more than people post projects that aren’t theirs. Everything that I make may not be my design but I specify that if that is the case and I always get permission from the original author of the project before starting on my own. I don’t know how these people can do this, even by the sense of pride I get when I complete a project, they don’t have any of that feeling. One thing is for sure, there are too many of these people out there.

-- A hammer dangling from a wall will bang and sound like work when the wind blows the right way.

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SawDustnSplinters

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#8 posted 11-01-2009 01:41 AM

Well Rhett, I feel you…it boils down to how much honor and self-respect a man or company has, if they ain’t got none there is not much you can do…it will eventually be their own downfall….on a diifferent note I had a big company called NapaStyle out of CA contact me to design a piece, so I spent 2 weeks designing it, they liked it, sent them the pics, prototype and plans and my quote….well I guess they did not like the quote. But I saw my exact design in their next catalog being produced from some other outfit out of GA..go figure..It takes all kinds…individuals and corporations…

Rob, that wasn’t that one where you made that nice huge bar and all the tables fer was it?

Hang in there and just kick them no account guys to the curb and move on…

PS: I put a little Javascript on my site so that if they right click on an image it says something like” I am sorry, those our our images!! hehe and it disables their right mouse button…oh well will work for most of them cept the desperate….I should have put something from “Lonesome Dove”( I won’t tolerate rude behaviour in a man…Woodrow F. Call) think I will..hehe…

here is a snippet of the code, yea I used to be a nerd..don’t ya dare tell no one…hehe..if you put it in the universal header or footer of your site it will work for all pages but if you ain’t got that option you can do one page at a time and you can change the message between () in the alert below:

<!—Begin
function right(e) {
if (navigator.appName 'Netscape' && (e.which 3 || e.which 2)) return false; else if (navigator.appName ‘Microsoft Internet Explorer’ &&
(event.button 2 || event.button 3)) {
alert(” I won’t tolerate rude behaviour in a man! Woodrow F. Call… The Right click option on your mouse has been disabled for the download window pages.”);
return false;
}
return true;
}

document.onmousedown=right;
document.onmouseup=right;
if (document.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
if (document.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEUP);
window.onmousedown=right;
window.onmouseup=right;
// End—>

-- Frank, Dallas,TX , http://www.allthingsrustix.com , “I have a REALLY BIG chainsaw”

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papadan

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#9 posted 11-01-2009 01:50 AM

I don’t care if someone uses my images or copies something I built. I just don’t want them using my pictures and telling people they built the project. Nobody has ever seen a swing like mine and this guy claimed he built it. LOL

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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miles125

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#10 posted 11-01-2009 01:56 AM

Even rendering is getting so sophisticated that virtual portfolios of the indistinguishable variety are just around the corner if not already here.

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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boyneskibum

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#11 posted 11-01-2009 02:52 AM

Sawdust, I figured a way around your right click disable. I’ll pm you the details!

-- Always keep a stash of band-aids in your workshop!

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SawDustnSplinters

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#12 posted 11-01-2009 03:01 AM

Boynes….well like I said it can be worked around, and well I guess I am an old nerd…. but it keeps the un-educated out..but nonetheless I could use a few more calls and parameters in there for the new browsers like firefox, etc..let’s build it bro..lets make it impervious…hehehe..and thanx
HAPPY HALLOWEEN LJ’S*

-- Frank, Dallas,TX , http://www.allthingsrustix.com , “I have a REALLY BIG chainsaw”

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papadan

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#13 posted 12-05-2009 02:52 AM

Posting someone elses work as your own is just not right. Takes a real lowlife to steal someone hard work.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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john

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#14 posted 12-05-2009 03:06 AM

I can,t imagine someone doing that to me :)

-- John in Belgrave (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com , http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112698715866

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papadan

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#15 posted 12-05-2009 03:42 AM

No chance on your houses John. You are world known.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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