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08-12-2015 01:23 AM

My brother was at an estate auction a couple of weeks ago, and came back with a Delta/Rockwell 5HP shaper. There is no model number, just a serial number. A quick Google search told me that it was built about 1963 in Milwaukee. He did not get a manual, or any other information. He didn’t buy any of the bits that went with it other than the one already one it.

Another quick Google search tells me that the cutters/bits will run $200 to $500.

My question is is this something worth keeping? Or should I put it on Craigslist? It is excellent shape for the age, and it still runs very smoothly. I don’t make doors, or even plan on it. My shop, like most, is small and real estate is at a premium. Is there something I would use this for other than raised panel doors?


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#1 posted 08-12-2015 01:35 AM

The cost of bits make it unfeasible to run a shaper as a hobbyist. The bits are just too expensive. Unless you have a commercial use for it, sell it.

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#2 posted 08-12-2015 01:35 AM

Moulding

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#3 posted 08-12-2015 01:47 AM

Brad, that is exactly what I was thinking. But now who to sell it to?

Waho6o9, I’d have to make a lot of moulding to make the price of the bits worth it.

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#4 posted 08-12-2015 01:53 AM

Correct, therein lies the dilemma

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#5 posted 08-12-2015 02:25 AM

If you can not sell it as is, pull the motor and put it on CL. It should be close to 4 or 5 hp. Worth some coin to someone that can repurpose it.

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#6 posted 08-12-2015 02:44 AM

delta rockwell…certainly warrants more info and or some pics. 5 hp at that

Don’t give up on it yet. Just because you may be a hobbiest, why would you not want to give it a chance.

You can perform quite a few operations with the shaper. and proper cutters.

I would not recommend parting the machine out until you know exactly what you have.

i.e.: table size, spindle options, swing capability, reversible switch gear?

where are you located?

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#7 posted 08-12-2015 02:53 AM

I’ll post some pics tomorrow, but the specs alone are really what is making me second guess selling it.

I will say I am more than a hobbiest, but I am not a professional cabinet maker either. I’ve racked my head trying to think of a project to use this on, and couldn’t think of any.

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#8 posted 08-12-2015 03:00 AM

I picked up an old shaper a year ago: a hundred box for a beautiful old cast iron Craftsman, a tray of hardly used cutters, and a sad punch on the arm from the old-timer with failing eyesite who had ni choice but to divest. I didn’t need the damn thing, but the guy ahead of me was working over the old guy to just sell him the cutters and I felt sorry for the man and his tool. Like I say, I didn’t need it and space is at a premium, but the past year has been a blast. I’m at a point where I’m searching out more projecta for the tool, like wainscotting and a hardwood floor for a carpeted hallway.

A tip the old guy gave me, in addition to actually giving me one for nothing, is to substitute molding head cutter for standard shaper cutters. There may be a safety issue here, or not, but the cutter has doubled the range of my came-with set of cutters. Google craftsman molding head cutter and then troll second-hand tool stores. In my area they’re found for about five bucks.

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#9 posted 08-12-2015 03:08 AM

They only made one shaper in 1963 – model 1340, which used various package model numbers depending on what options were included (43-205, 43-212 and 43-213). The recommended motors were 1 and 2 HP single phase and 1 and 3 HP three phase motors. Standard machines shipped with a 1 HP single phase motor, so your 5 HP is either an upgraded option from the factory or one that was installed by a PO.

A manual and more info can be found over at the vintagemachinery site. All the model numbers, options and accessories can be found in the 1963 Delta catalog.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#10 posted 08-12-2015 02:03 PM

Here are some pics I took this morning. Like I said it is in excellent shape for its age. Which I was wrong. After checking Vintagemachinery.com I found it was made in 1953 not 1963 as the serial number begins with 109. There is no model number anywhere I can see. It was also made in Bellefountaine, Ohio not Milwaukee like I originally thought. This was made after Rockwell purchased Delta.

I’ve decided I’m going to sell it, but now the question is how much?

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#11 posted 08-12-2015 02:16 PM

Where do you live and how much do you want?

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StuffByThom

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#12 posted 08-12-2015 02:26 PM

I am just West of St. Louis, Missouri. I think $750 is a fair price considering the condition it is in.

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#13 posted 08-12-2015 03:00 PM

It is in good condition and i think the price is ok. If you plan to visit NC anytime soon let me know. Good luck.

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#14 posted 08-12-2015 05:34 PM

After checking Vintagemachinery.com I found it was made in 1953 not 1963 as the serial number begins with 109. There is no model number anywhere I can see.

Still the same model number as I listed above – and more generically, they are just called the Delta Heavy Duty Shaper. Looks like it’s been re-painted at some point, so it’s probably been taken very good care of. Does appear to be missing the lock knob though, and that is not the original switch.

Around here, the price for those on CL are all over the board. There is one listed now for $250, and a newer one listed for $800 (w/multiple knives). Best bet would be to check prices in your area to get a ballpark as to what you might get for it.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#15 posted 08-12-2015 06:17 PM

If I were closer I’d buy it in a heard beat. If it is in fact a 5hp shaper I’d pay up to 800 for it.

It would be a shame to break it down and sell it for parts.

In a business where you have to make money to survive I understand “justify” and “feasible”.

Justify and Feasibility has no place in a hobby situation.
In a hobby I never understood the words ’’justify or “feasible”. A hobby is about fun. All you need is the ’’want’’ and the money to buy a tool. It doesn’t have to make you money.

A guy at work place who’s been to my shop and in a round about way said it couldn’t understand the money I have in tools. This same guy buys 1600 dollar fly fishing reel and has an expensive motor home. He gets to use those maybe two week out of the the year to catch some very expensive fish. Gee I wonder how he justifies that! That’s easy it’s about the fun and experience it not about what fish cost.

I have 3 shaper and a stock feeder, I don’t use them that often but when I do I just smile.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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