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Forum topic by Crickett posted 08-11-2015 04:05 PM 995 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-11-2015 04:05 PM

I just finished a project with many small parts and intricacies that has left me exhausted and totally ready to buy an HVLP system. In researching turbine systems, I’ve come away knowing that I want a gravity-feed gun, and probably at-least a 4-stage system so I can spray heavier viscoscities (when needed). I’m well aware of Fuji and Apollo for professional sprayers, but I noticed that 3M makes HVLP’s too. Has any had any experience with 3M’s spray units? Give me some pointers on things to certainly be on the lookout for. Thanks – Crickett.

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#1 posted 08-13-2015 04:54 PM

I have a four stage Capspray, which is now made by Triton. It’s given me a lot of good performance, and you can pick them up on Craigslist for around three or four hundred.

I also have an Accuspray with the two gallon bucket, but it takes some time to get used to. However, you can do anything from paint a room to tend small projects. However, it is a conversion type system with a built in compressor.

My favorite remains the four stage.

If buying used, just make sure the gun is clean and running well.

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#2 posted 08-13-2015 05:34 PM

Another thing to consider is setup and cleanup. Sure painting will take you all of a couple of minutes but prepping the paint is a chore and cleaning up is a nightmare(IMO).

I think a quality rattle can will get you a good finish with virtually no setup and cleanup. Just another thing to consider.

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#3 posted 08-13-2015 05:51 PM

The need for expensive, multi-stage HVLP systems is eliminated when you use a gravity-feed compressor driven gun. Assuming you already have a compressor, this is worth considering. A conversion type gun such as this can spray any viscosity, just adjust air pressure to suit your needs. I spray with about 35 psi at the gun, and am completely satisfied with the finish I am getting.
I like the Porter Cable PSH1, but there are more affordable options too.

Good luck!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#4 posted 08-13-2015 06:52 PM

Both conversion systems, like Pintodelux, mentions, and turbine systems have their advantages over the other.

The compressor driven system means you can use what you have. However, the compressor has to have enough CFM to run the conversion gun. A little Porter Cable pancake unit isn’t going to cut the mustard.

Turbines are easy to pack, if need arises. Moving one is like moving a vacuum. You will never have to worry about moisture or otherwise removing contamination from the lines.

The air runs hotter out of a turbine, so you may have to switch thinners.

With my four stage, I only use a couple tablespoons of water per quart of latex. Even then, I just eyeball it and get good results.

After using a gun a bit, you find clean up isn’t all that bad. Of course, as noted, rattle cans win out. However, you’re stuck with a limited color selection a fewer material choices.

Just for reference, even though my four stage only puts out about ten pounds pressure at the nozzel, the eighty CFM that goes along with that will run a texture gun. I use mine for small touch up jobs, rather than getting ramps out to drag the compressor along.

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#5 posted 08-13-2015 10:43 PM

All I can say is my apollo 1025 is an awesome system. Mines going on 10 years old and I love it. Prior to that I had a gun that was a conversion gun with my compressor. It was a bleeder and drove me nuts. The gun is as important as the sprayer. I have the 7500 atomizer gun and its awesome. I can dial a dot down with at fan. Support it great as well.

I’ll also recommend the 3m PPS system. It replaces your cup with a plastic pressurized cup and dissposable liner. It has a filter built in to the cap.

Use it and then chuck the cup and just put a new liner in. Comes will little caps so if you need to hold it for a while no big deal.

Beats the hell out of gravity cups. After you have been upside down spraying you’ll know what I mean. I order them by the box on Amazon for a real reasonable price.

The appolo ain’t chaep, but you only feel the pain once. Good luck.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#6 posted 08-14-2015 02:29 AM

I hear great reviews about the Apollos over and over again. I love my Capsprayer, but it sounds like the variable speed control for the fan might be well worth considering. I’ve never used one, so I don’t know how much of a gain it is.

Those things said, my gun was four hundred. I use it to spray deck railings in a fraction of the time I’d brush and roll them. On another day, I dial the gun down to about what an airbrush would put out dialed all the way up.

In the end, using a good gun is like switching from a cheap brush to a Wooster or Purdy. It’s night and day.

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#7 posted 08-14-2015 02:37 AM

I painted airplanes. You buy the cheapest HVLP sprayer you can find, replace the nozzle with a good one and paint away. Much cheaper that way. You can buy one for $40 on ebay.

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#8 posted 08-14-2015 06:19 AM

I sold my 4 stage Capspray.

I found a simple foam roller gives better results, easy cleanup, fast, no overspray mess.

My two cents.

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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