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Forum topic by TedS posted 10-29-2009 05:13 PM 9954 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-29-2009 05:13 PM

I’m working on a new product and need to find a source for 3/8” threaded wood dowels 17.5” long and regular-size wood 3/8” nuts to match. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Probably will start by ordering 100 or so of each.

-- Ted, Wisconsin


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#1 posted 10-29-2009 08:35 PM

Wood threads really need to be larger than normal threads due to the porous grain of wood. Even with a 3/8 rod threaded, the nuts would be too small to hold threads or not split in half at normal 3/8 nut size. Do they have to be threaded? could you glue heads on hardwood dowels and then glue on a hex shaped cap after inserting the dowel? Otherwise, 1/2” is doable if you could modify your plans.

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#2 posted 10-29-2009 09:18 PM

Thanks for the reply, Dan. Actually I found a supplier for the 3/8” each size, and the dowel and nut combination are plenty strong for what I’m doing. Downsides are that the dowel is threaded the entire length—overkill for my product—and the nuts are 1”-diameter dowels cut in 1” lengths and then drilled and threaded. The round exterior of the this “nut” makes it hard to turn on to the threaded dowel because there’s not much to grab. I’ve lubed the threads with beeswax and this helps, but I think a regular square nut would be a lot better. All the above said, a 1/2” size dowel and nut would be fine, too, if you happen to know someone who could supply them. I’m trying to make this extremely simple, attractive, and user friendly. The threaded wood dowels that I bought are great except for the downsides I mentioned above.

-- Ted, Wisconsin

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#3 posted 10-29-2009 11:19 PM

http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/doweling-tools-wood-threading.aspx

Ted, this lets you make your own in various sizes….

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#4 posted 10-29-2009 11:26 PM

I was going to suggest the same thing as Gary. Make your own.

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#5 posted 10-30-2009 12:02 AM

Not too sure about threading doweling, but standard engineering taps like say 1/2 in UNC cut just fine in decent wood. Birch ply takes quite a durable thread too. It might be worth trying a die nut to make your rod, but probably best to make sure in either case that your drill/dowel diameter is fractionally over/under so it doesn’t jam while cutting.

Danish oil is a very effective lubricant on wood, and by penetrating and curing would probably also strengthen the wood quite a bit which might be worth a try where the grain direction is unhelpful in solid wood..

ian

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#6 posted 10-30-2009 03:17 AM

Thanks for all the great suggestions. I am leaning toward buying a tool such as Gary suggested.

-- Ted, Wisconsin

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#7 posted 10-30-2009 03:23 AM

The Bealle Wood Threader has 1/2” as its smallest.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#8 posted 10-30-2009 11:03 PM

As Gary posted to, I have 1/2” 3/4” and 1”. You could use a disc sander to make your round nuts hex shaped and only half as thick as they are now. How many “nuts and bolts” do you need and what length bolts? Bolt length is measured from the end of the rod to the bottom of the head, head thickness is not part of the bolt length.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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#9 posted 11-01-2009 03:25 PM

At present, Dan, I’m looking to buy these in quantities of about 100. What I need are threaded wood dowels—not bolts—that are about 19 inches long and about 400 nuts to go with them. The length is somewhat indeterminate because it depends of the length of the nuts. Currently, the nuts I’m using are 1 inch long and I need 4 per threaded dowel for my product. If the nuts were 1/2-inch long, then the threaded dowels could be 18 inches long. What I’d like to find is a small woodworking company that has made threaded dowels and nuts and would welcome a small job like this. Naturally hope springs eternally among the entrepreneurial, so I hope the product is a success and leads to higher quantity future purchases.

-- Ted, Wisconsin

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#10 posted 11-02-2009 01:10 AM

Wonder if these guys would be an option: http://www.chicagodowel.com/dowel_pins.html

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#11 posted 11-02-2009 04:25 AM

I checked with Chicago Dowel, but the company doesn’t seem to do threaded dowels in sizes as small as 1/2”.

-- Ted, Wisconsin

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#12 posted 11-02-2009 04:41 AM

Times a wastin’ Ted. Better get the tool and get the product made…

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#13 posted 11-02-2009 07:24 PM

Yeah, Gary. I ordered the Beall kit this morning.

-- Ted, Wisconsin

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