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Forum topic by Boneski posted 10-28-2009 08:13 AM 1971 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Boneski

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10-28-2009 08:13 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question arbor tablesaw

Hi Guys, long time lurker first time writer.
I like this site a lot and I already have a few projects that need photographing and posting.

I’m just getting into woodwork with a view to making a few cabinets for aquariums amongst other things.

Recently I bought myself a brand new 10” contractor saw for about $1000AUD that seemed to fit the bill for the projects I have in mind. Anyway so I’ve got this thing home, put it all together and done some basic pre-start alignment. I’ve then proceeded to cut up some plywood to make a box with and to continue fine tuning the saw in the process. I’ve got an 80 tooth CMT finishing blade on it, a Fenner drives segmented belt, everything is square and straight but I’m getting fairly rough cuts out of it – like you can see blade marks along the wood.

I’m thinking the blade might be bent. The dial indicator measured about .012” wobble near the outer circumference. I’ve then proceeded to measure the face of the arbor which had .002” of wobble and then the blade locating shoulder which had about .001” of runout. It was at this stage I came to the conclusion the arbor was bent.

The next day I dropped into the store and talked to the manager about it, who seemed to think there was a problem. I dropped the saw in for the “technician” to look at. The next day I dropped by the store to find my saw that had not been disassembled with the photocopied pages of a book that basically said “If your arbor face has more than .003” wobble, you should have it machined or replaced”. The manager now told me there was definitely no problem and the saw was “within specification”. He was however unwilling to furnish me with the specs that he was referring to. Methinks they don’t exist. So I collected the saw bench and put it back into service, and still not real happy with it.

Research from speaking to tradespeople, the internet and a book that I bought from the same shop all say that anything above .001” of wobble in the arbor face of a 10” saw is unacceptable – some going to the extent of calling it dangerous.

The other thing is that regardless of the allowable wobble being .001” or .003” these measurements are based on wear and tear on a saw and do not refer to a brand new, out of the box unit.

I’m considering taking this issue further and I really would like to get some input from the members of this great site.

So what do you think – is the saw faulty or is it ok?

-- Blinded by brilliance


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PineInTheAsh

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#1 posted 10-28-2009 08:31 AM

First off, a warm welcome. You are going to like it here. Hope to see pictures of your projects.

The saw is the main cog in your shop. When it comes to this singular piece of equipment, take everything seriously.

Too often many of us here try to wrestle the problem ourselves.

The problem you’ve outlined for a new saw is totally unacceptable.

Return everything immediately.

If within timeline and transaction was credit card, notify CC company and put hold on payment.

(Sidebar Q: The CMT blade and Fenner belt was yours or did the saw come with them?)

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Splinterman

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#2 posted 10-28-2009 08:41 AM

Hey Boneski,
Take it back and get a total refund.

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doyoulikegumwood

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#3 posted 10-28-2009 08:58 AM

i have to agree that the amount of run out or wobble your having is unacceptable my table saw is 55 years old and has no noticeable wobble even with a dial indicator and your saw is brand new. i would take the advice of the others and return the saw and spend you money with someone else willing to help you make it right.

-- I buy tools so i can make more money,so ican buy more tools so I can work more, to make more money, so I can buy more tool, so I can work more

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dmorrison

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#4 posted 10-28-2009 09:43 AM

Everything they said and Oh by the way, Don’t shop at that store anymore. :-)

Dave

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NathanAllen

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#5 posted 10-28-2009 10:06 PM

The second they told ME to schlep a brand new contractor’s saw back to THEIR store to see if it needed to be repaired is the same one that I return the item.

Anything large enough to require a couple people to load into a truck is something they can send a guy to look into or a couple guys to pick up.

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Boneski

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#6 posted 10-28-2009 11:38 PM

Return to base warranty….
Yeah the belt and CMT blade I bought seperate.
The whole thing has been a really bad experience so far – mainly because of their sh!t customer service.
The pity is that these guys really do have some good stuff in their shop and I’ve spent about $3000 with them to date….. I’m looking at a 12” Woodfast planer jointer combo unit amongst other things at the moment which I don’t think I’ll be purchasing from them – these units are $2000.
I just wish there were more places that sell woodworking equipment where I live.
:-(

-- Blinded by brilliance

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 10-28-2009 11:45 PM

Welcome to Ljs
If you have spent that much with them they should treat you better .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Boneski

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#8 posted 11-18-2009 06:36 AM

Well after writing a letter to the CEO of the company, one of the local managers finally called and offered to give me a refund… if I lug the thing back in there AGAIN!
No hint that they are admitting there is something wrong with the saw.
No suggestion of a smooth over.

I suppose these guys don’t need hobbyist customers….

-- Blinded by brilliance

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