LumberJocks

Choosing a finish

  • Advertise with us

« back to Finishing forum

Forum topic by MBD posted 08-06-2015 03:15 PM 755 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View MBD's profile

MBD

72 posts in 1347 days


08-06-2015 03:15 PM

Good Morning to all you LJ’s. I have been commissioned to do a dining table out of pine by a good customer. She wants the table “sealed” to where no food or liquid will stain the table, but she wants absolutely no shine at all. I figured I would ask the professionals (LJ’s of course) on what is the best route to take on this one. Thanks in advance!

-- Matt, Mississippi


13 replies so far

View Ripthorn's profile

Ripthorn

1406 posts in 2446 days


#1 posted 08-06-2015 03:23 PM

I’m no professional, but I would probably go with something like epoxy or Behlen’s Rock Hard finish and knock the shine down with sandpaper and/or steel wool. I’m looking forward to seeing other responses as I plan to build a table sometime in the future.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

View MBD's profile

MBD

72 posts in 1347 days


#2 posted 08-06-2015 03:26 PM

Thanks Rip, but I failed to mention that it’s supposed to look like there is no finish at all. I’ve thought about flooding it will oil, but that won’t offer any surface protection.

-- Matt, Mississippi

View Fred Hargis's profile (online now)

Fred Hargis

3931 posts in 1954 days


#3 posted 08-06-2015 03:31 PM

You last comment about “no finish at all’ makes me think you are pretty much limited to a waterborne finish. They are water clear (sometimes) and about the only thing that won’t cause a color shift. Some of them have a small amount of tint added to give them the look of an oil finish (hence the part about “sometimes”). I would be inclined to use something like Target Coatings EM8000, but I think it may have some of the coloring. Still, it would be a good finish, especially with the cross linking additive they offer to go with it.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

View MBD's profile

MBD

72 posts in 1347 days


#4 posted 08-06-2015 04:09 PM

Thanks Fred, that’s kind of what I’m leaning towards…. a waterborne finish. Has anyone had any luck with a flat laquer?

-- Matt, Mississippi

View Fred Hargis's profile (online now)

Fred Hargis

3931 posts in 1954 days


#5 posted 08-06-2015 06:42 PM

I’ve never tried anything with a flat sheen, someone may chime in. You might have to go with a higher gloss and buff it back to the sheen you want.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

View Drew's profile

Drew

304 posts in 2561 days


#6 posted 08-06-2015 09:30 PM

I mostly spray Target Coatings waterborne finishes. I usually start with a satin and flatten from there. Their 9300 (my go to) is said to be a 40, but I feel it’s greater than that. I add about 22 grams of their flattening agent to dull it down to where I like it.
This gives me the flexibility to spray anything from what I would call a 50 all the way down to around 10, which is pretty flat.
With that said, I believe the only way you will get the look she is after is with a penetrating i.e. danish oil, tung oil or boiled linseed oil.

I wouldn’t recommend these as a final coat on any dining table, let alone pine!

Target Coatings EM8000 will give a great durable top coat without to much of the “plastic” look. This would be my recommendation, but it has to be sprayed

-- TruCraftFurniture.com

View RobS888's profile

RobS888

1984 posts in 1306 days


#7 posted 08-06-2015 09:43 PM

My wife likes the Watco natural Danish oil on pine. I’m doing the trim in her office with it. It looks muddy, but dries pretty clear. I have a piece of pine with Watco natural, shellac, arm-r-seal, and medium walnut danish oil. Would you like to see it?

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3038 days


#8 posted 08-06-2015 09:52 PM

Arm r seal is a good tough product ,it comes in a satin and if you like you can still thin it an or do a light sanding with some 600 grit to make it look even more dull looking.

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/85F08/Arm-R-Seal-Top-Coat-Satin-Quart.aspx

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3038 days


#9 posted 08-06-2015 09:54 PM

Whatever you choose do a sample board and see how your customer likes it.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View MBD's profile

MBD

72 posts in 1347 days


#10 posted 08-07-2015 12:33 PM

Thanks guys, Rob I would love to see the different finishes on that piece of pine.

Jim, I have several samples to show her different colors and to see how distressed she wants the table. I talked with her last night, and she told me that she wants the table to look 100 years old! We’ll see how this turns out.

-- Matt, Mississippi

View RobS888's profile

RobS888

1984 posts in 1306 days


#11 posted 08-07-2015 04:47 PM

Here you go MDB,

First 2 shots are under LED lights on my wife’s lathe, the last 2 shots are under florescent shop lights. The lighting has a huge affect!

1 shot of the back to show the natural color of the pine and the front to show the finishes.
Amber Shellac, Watco Natural, Arm-R-Seal, polyurethane.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

View MBD's profile

MBD

72 posts in 1347 days


#12 posted 08-07-2015 05:54 PM

Thanks Rob, from the pictures it looks like the Arm-R-Seal offers pretty close to what I’m looking for.

-- Matt, Mississippi

View RobS888's profile

RobS888

1984 posts in 1306 days


#13 posted 08-07-2015 06:09 PM

You can’t go wrong with the Arm-r-seal satin, in my opinion.

I found when I brushed on about 9 coats it was just starting to show as a coating.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com