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nighthawke

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08-03-2015 04:38 AM

Hi folks,

New member here, I’ve been lurking for some time now, and I finally decided to register an account to seek your wisdom.

I have been woodworking for a little under a year now. I’ve grown frustrated with not having some of the larger staple woodworking tools, and I am the type of person that likes to buy the last tool first. With that said, I came into a windfall this year with a massive bonus from work, and I’d like to invest that in my budding hobby with equipment that I can grow into. My budget is around 5,000$ for a Planer, Jointer, Bandsaw and Dust collection.

I know opinions are going to vary, and I’ve read so many reviews, but ultimately, I can’t decide if this will be a good “package” to start out with.

Planer - Grizzly G0453PX 15 Planer with Spiral Cutterhead
Jointer - Grizzly G0490X 8 Jointer w/ Spiral Cutterhead
Bandsaw - Grizzly G0513X2 17 Bandsaw 2HP w/Cast Iron Trunnion
Dust Collection - G1030Z2P 3 HP Dust Collector with Aluminum Impeller

As you can see I selected all Grizzly equipment because it seems to be the best value for the money. I don’t live anywhere near their three locations though, so being able to see and touch these machines in person does not seem possible. I live in Western NC, about an hour from Charlotte, and an hour and a half from Asheville. The local woodcraft seems to carry powermatic and jet. I’d MUCH prefer buying local and not having to deal with shipping the equipment, but I also don’t want to pay double for the privilege.

I welcome any and all feedback, and genuinely hope


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tomsteve

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#1 posted 08-03-2015 10:01 AM

Welcome! Do you have a table saw? If not I’d highly encourage ya to make that a purchase.
As for the tools, I won’t offer anything on that other than to say I’m sure there’s some others here that can guide ya to another source nearby for woodworking power tools.Not that ya can see and touch the grizzlies there, but they will have different manufacturers
Quick search on the www shows blame supply in charlotte
http://blumesupply.com/woodworking/

There’s other,woodworking stores in Charlotte,too.
Powermatic and jet are rather respected names in woodworking equipment.
I think you should be keepin us informed on your choices AND show us pictures of the purchases and shop setup.

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rwe2156

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#2 posted 08-03-2015 11:09 AM

Its a great package, especially the spiral cutterheads.
Looks like you’ve done the due diligence and have a grasp of the brand nuances.

Couple comments:

First, If you already have a TS, is an upgrade a consideration?
If you don’t have a TS, then you’ve put the cart before the horse.
This is important. It should be your first purchase.
I professional model cabinet saw will consume something like 1/2 to 2/3 of your budget.

Second, I’m curious why a 17” bandsaw? This is not an entry level machine. I have a 12” and a 17” bandsaw and I find the 12” extremely handy for keeping a small blade on for those little cuts. The 17” is practically dedicated as a resaw and heavy timber machine. Perhaps starting out with a 14” might be worth considering. You’ll be able to resaw on it, too if that’s a consideration.

Third, do you need to spend all the money on machines?
You’re going to need some hand tools and good ones are not cheap.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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nighthawke

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#3 posted 08-03-2015 11:14 AM



Welcome! Do you have a table saw? If not I d highly encourage ya to make that a purchase.
As for the tools, I won t offer anything on that other than to say I m sure there s some others here that can guide ya to another source nearby for woodworking power tools.Not that ya can see and touch the grizzlies there, but they will have different manufacturers
Quick search on the www shows blame supply in charlotte
http://blumesupply.com/woodworking/

There s other,woodworking stores in Charlotte,too.
Powermatic and jet are rather respected names in woodworking equipment.
I think you should be keepin us informed on your choices AND show us pictures of the purchases and shop setup.

- tomsteve

Thank you for the reply, I do indeed have a table saw. I also have a router and router table. Im primarily after these items because I’m tired of using lowes lumber. my local hardwood dealer sells skip planed lumber, but they’re really busy and at times its hard to get them to surface my 20-30 board feet at a time.

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jonah

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#4 posted 08-03-2015 11:42 AM

I’d also recommend a 14” band saw to start with. Unless you have a real need to resaw a lot, a 17” band saw is sort of a waste.

You could get a 14” and do everything on it right now. Then if you find that you are resawing a lot, you could get a larger saw and make that a dedicated large blade/resaw machine.

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tomsteve

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#5 posted 08-03-2015 06:55 PM

Something I thought about ya may want to consider:
UpgradIng the filter bags on the dc. 2,5 micron will let the deadly dust through.

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nighthawke

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#6 posted 08-03-2015 08:26 PM



Couple comments:

First, If you already have a TS, is an upgrade a consideration?
If you don t have a TS, then you ve put the cart before the horse.
This is important. It should be your first purchase.
I professional model cabinet saw will consume something like 1/2 to 2/3 of your budget.

Second, I m curious why a 17” bandsaw? This is not an entry level machine. I have a 12” and a 17” bandsaw and I find the 12” extremely handy for keeping a small blade on for those little cuts. The 17” is practically dedicated as a resaw and heavy timber machine. Perhaps starting out with a 14” might be worth considering. You ll be able to resaw on it, too if that s a consideration.

Third, do you need to spend all the money on machines?
You re going to need some hand tools and good ones are not cheap.

- rwe2156

Great questions. I have been gathering tools for about a year. So i’ve got what i consider the staples for what I do currently. I’ve got hand planes, and chisels, lots of clamps etc. I also have a table saw, chop saw, drill press, oscillating sander, belt sander, jig saw, and circular saw. Most of these things I’ve had for longer than the year, but only in the last year have I gotten a real interest in wood working.

I was looking at the 17 inch bandsaw primarily because I will only have room for 1 bandsaw, I thought about the scenario you mention, and I just don’t have the room. Starting with a 17 will give me a lot of machine to grow into. I really want to be able resaw 10inch 8/4 hardwoods, and research showed that the 17 would offer me the power and flexibility to do so.

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nighthawke

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#7 posted 08-03-2015 08:27 PM



Something I thought about ya may want to consider:
UpgradIng the filter bags on the dc. 2,5 micron will let the deadly dust through.

- tomsteve

I’m very ignorant on the dust collection. If I’m understanding you, the bag type that comes on it, collects the chips and some dust, but does not capture all of the dust? Could you provide a link to the type of bag you would recommend?

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Dabcan

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#8 posted 08-03-2015 09:23 PM

Hi there,

I think you’ve got your bases covered with those tools, I do this professionally (small scale) and have similar sized tools and believe that you can do just about anything with this set up, any bigger and you can likely find a friend or pay someone to deal with a bigger machine (ie. flattening a table top, etc.).

As for the DC comments, what they mean is the collector you’ve selected has plastic bags on the bottom that collect the chips and cloth bags on top that act as the filters. These bags are good, but not as good as a canister filter which will take the very fine (1 micron) dust. This is the dust you need to worry about, the less fine dust makes a mess, but the fine dust gets in your lungs and can cause cancer.

I’m not sure if this would fit the 3HP machine, but this is what a canister looks like:

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Replacement-Canister-Filter-for-G0583Z/T23129

They are easier to clean as well, I have one on a 2HP machine and it’s great.

I think you’ve future proofed yourself with these tools, but I would definitely suggest a canister upgrade on the DC, you’re lungs will thank you!

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