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08-01-2015 06:10 PM

I’m supposed to pick up the Craftsman this weekend, but I now see a Ridgid TS 3650 advertised in excellent condition for $400.
My plans for the Craftsman ($120 purchase + $200 Delta T3 fence + my time/cost to recondition) = $380.
My plans for the Ridgid – re-align and plug in = $400

Would I end up with a better system with the Craftsman upgrade or with the Ridgid and original fence?
Both have caster systems – Ridgid is much better. Thanks to anyone who responds


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#1 posted 08-01-2015 06:48 PM

I have the Ridgid 3650 saw that I paid $494 for in 2006. (new) I use it every day and it still runs great. $400, used, sounds a bit high to me. I think that this saw is no longer being made. I know nothing about the Craftsman saw.

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#2 posted 08-01-2015 07:46 PM

$400 is absurdly high for a 3650, even in excellent condition. There would need to be some substantial upgrades, such as an aftermarket fence, to justify that kind of price.

I paid $300 for my used 3650 about seven years ago. That was just after they’d been discontinued in favor of the short lived granite-topped saw.

The Craftsman is essentially the same saw with a worse base and slightly worse wings. After the fence upgrade you’d have a far, far superior fence to the stock 3650 fence, which is merely adequate. The only reason I’d buy the Ridgid is if it had an upgraded fence. At $250-$300 it would be a tougher decision, but at $400 the Craftsman is a no brainer.

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#3 posted 08-02-2015 01:08 PM



$400 is absurdly high for a 3650, even in excellent condition. There would need to be some substantial upgrades, such as an aftermarket fence, to justify that kind of price.

I paid $300 for my used 3650 about seven years ago. That was just after they d been discontinued in favor of the short lived granite-topped saw.

The Craftsman is essentially the same saw with a worse base and slightly worse wings. After the fence upgrade you d have a far, far superior fence to the stock 3650 fence, which is merely adequate. The only reason I d buy the Ridgid is if it had an upgraded fence. At $250-$300 it would be a tougher decision, but at $400 the Craftsman is a no brainer.

- jonah

Humbly disagree with the 3650 fence comment. I have both types of fences (ridgid OEM and a T2) and find that, when aligned properly, the OEM fence performs as reliably and accurately as the T2.

The 3650 is a great saw, but $400 is too high a price. At $300, I’d go with the 3650.

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Greg In Maryland

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#4 posted 08-02-2015 02:02 PM

Stoler

I have the 3650 and it is a nice saw. However, there were some issues with the arbor that required a arbor replacement. Fortunately, because it is a safety ‘recall’ and Ridgid will replace it for free. No big deal, but something you should know before you pull the trigger. Google ‘Ridgid 3650 arbor’ and lots of info will be available.

Greg

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#5 posted 08-02-2015 03:04 PM

The basic guts of the saws are very similar. While I prefer the T2, the stock 3650 fence shouldn’t be an issue…it’s pretty good in it’s own rite. The solid wings of the 3650 have more appeal IMHO, but $400 is fairly steep. I’d be inclined to offer $300-$325 and see if it sticks. Keep us posted!

Here’s a pic that’ll help confirm if the 3650 in question had one of miss-cut arbors:

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stooler

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#6 posted 08-02-2015 03:47 PM

Wow. I can see where that would be a problem. In case I see this, is adding a couple washers a solution, or is replacement the fix?

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#7 posted 08-02-2015 03:48 PM

Just re-read your post, and noted that replacement is required. Thank you. I will be sure to look for this.

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#8 posted 08-02-2015 04:22 PM



Wow. I can see where that would be a problem. In case I see this, is adding a couple washers a solution, or is replacement the fix?

- stooler

It’s only an issue with a stacked dado set, and only some units were affected. A spacer that’s wide enough to put all the blades far enough past the miss cut thread would work, but it’ll diminish the total possible width of the stack you can use. It’s fine with a regular blade. Be vague and use “the arbor issue” as a bartering point! ;-)

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#9 posted 08-02-2015 05:43 PM

Got it!

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#10 posted 08-02-2015 06:24 PM


$400 is absurdly high for a 3650, even in excellent condition. There would need to be some substantial upgrades, such as an aftermarket fence, to justify that kind of price.

I paid $300 for my used 3650 about seven years ago. That was just after they d been discontinued in favor of the short lived granite-topped saw.

The Craftsman is essentially the same saw with a worse base and slightly worse wings. After the fence upgrade you d have a far, far superior fence to the stock 3650 fence, which is merely adequate. The only reason I d buy the Ridgid is if it had an upgraded fence. At $250-$300 it would be a tougher decision, but at $400 the Craftsman is a no brainer.

- jonah

Humbly disagree with the 3650 fence comment. I have both types of fences (ridgid OEM and a T2) and find that, when aligned properly, the OEM fence performs as reliably and accurately as the T2.

The 3650 is a great saw, but $400 is too high a price. At $300, I d go with the 3650.

- toolie


I agree that when aligned properly the 3650 fence is good. However, the alignment process is incredibly more difficult and annoying than the “turn a set screw” style that most good T-square fences have. You have to loosen four bolts, then somehow try to monkey the fence into the position you want it in, then tighten the bolts without the fence coming out of alignment. It’s really rather difficult to get totally parallel to the blade/miter slot. Certainly a sight more difficult than t-square fences.

I find my fence comes out of alignment on its own about every six months or so, so I have to realign it once or twice a year. I’ve found that loosening three of the screws and trying to pivot on a mostly-tight fourth one is the best way to get it done, but it’s still finicky, touchy, and annoying.

Also, I’ve never been a fan of front-and-rear locking fences. The 3650’s is probably the best of that type that I’ve used (I owned two different jobsite-type saws before my 3650), but it’s still inferior to the T-square design.

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#11 posted 08-03-2015 01:31 AM

Excuse my off topic inquiry but are you going to leave the Craftsman seller hanging? Did he say he would hold it for you?

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#12 posted 08-03-2015 09:01 AM

Bob, I had to go back and re-read my posts, and I see where you could get that idea. No, Sir. When I saw the ad for the second saw, I told him that I was considering another saw. Additionally, he was never “holding” it for me. It was a “first one who comes with the money gets it” deal. Still is for both saws. Now a new wrinkle has appeared. More about that later.
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#13 posted 08-03-2015 08:26 PM

As luck would have it, while reading all of the replies, I happened to look again on Clist. I found a Ridgid TS 2424 with some neat upgrades (Incra miter gauge, better pulleys, upgraded belt, dado set, blade, store bought zero clearance inserts with mini-splitter jigs, etc.). I picked it up this morning, and have been cleaning and aligning since I got it home. A great day. If anyone has anything to share on the TS2424, I’m listening.

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#14 posted 08-03-2015 08:27 PM

How much did you pay, just out of curiosity?

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#15 posted 08-03-2015 08:32 PM

For that kind of money, why not go for a used cabinet saw?

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