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10-02-2007 08:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane restoration frog yoke stanley no7 7

I recently picked up a no7 Stanley from e-bay for a good price. Unfortunately the yoke was incorrectly wedged on the depth adjustment wheel and it broke when I tried to back out the adjusting wheel. As a result I will need to get a replacement yoke.

Which yokes are the same as the no 7? Are the all the same, or all different or can get a yoke from only particular planes.

Does anyone have a spare yoke or frog they would be willing to sell?

Thanks,

-- Che.


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#1 posted 10-02-2007 08:41 PM

Let me check my box of parts. I think I may have one that will work.

Let me clarify first what part you’re talking about. You’re talking about the Y shaped depth adjustment yoke that engages the blade and the depth adjusting wheel through the frog. Correct?

-- Paul, Texas

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#2 posted 10-02-2007 08:45 PM

Yes that is correct. I’m sure there are a couple of names for it but it was listed as the yoke on the LN diagram.

-- Che.

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#3 posted 10-02-2007 08:51 PM

You should be able to get a Frog one from a 6 or a 7. You also need to find one of the same style. Do you have some photos of the plane? Also any info about patent dates would be helpful to identify the type.

I’m not sure how easy it would be to replace the yoke.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 10-02-2007 08:57 PM

Wayne is right about the style – I was going to ask that next.

Stanley frogs have gone through three or four major changes over the past 100+ years.

Photos would be helpful. I haven’t attempted the replacement of a yoke. But if memory serves me, it seems as though there’s a pin that can possibly be knocked out to remove the broken one and thus hopefully saved and reinserted with a replacement and a bit of epoxy. Knocking it out without damaging the frog might necessitate holding your mouth juuuuuuust right.

-- Paul, Texas

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#5 posted 10-02-2007 09:05 PM

I’ll try and get a picture tonight. The yoke is attached to the frog with a pin that is pressed in. At least one restoration blog I’ve read they recommend driving out the pin and removing the yoke prior to striping the japaning (if needed) so I’m not to worried about that part of it. I know there are a lot of parts that should be interchangeable but aren’t. I wouldn’t mind getting a spare frog from a no 7 but there seem to be a wealth of smoother parts which will help keep the cost down since the rest is in good shape. I have a feeling it is a later version. Here is the ebay listing…

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220150671320&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=012

Thanks for all the help.

-- Che.

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#6 posted 10-02-2007 09:15 PM

It is a later model with the hardwood painted knob and tote. But still a good buy.

Let me see what I have tonight and I’ll post a picture of what I have as well (for comparison).

-- Paul, Texas

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#7 posted 10-02-2007 09:27 PM

I was going to say that it probably is post-WW2. I couldn’t see a patent date and the tote and knob don’t seem to be Rosewood. another solution may be to get a differint frog. Shine ‘er, up this a working plane.
Tom

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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#8 posted 10-02-2007 09:32 PM

Working plane is what I wanted. I did a quick cleanup and re-assembly and even with the broken yoke the plane still works OK; even the depth adjustment works (for the most part). The only problem is if the frog is pushed all the way forward to close the mouth you can’t pull the blade back far enough. You can, however, start with the blade back and slowly advance it to get a nice shaving.

-- Che.

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#9 posted 10-02-2007 09:35 PM

Nice buy. I think I would punch it out and head to a large flea market. I would look for a parts plane and would compare directly. If I was at home I would look at my planes for comparison to see if it is even an option, but I am on the road until Friday.

I might also have spare parts in my parts box….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#10 posted 10-03-2007 03:55 PM

I didn’t have the time last night that I thought I would. I took a quick 10 minute visit to my parts box and didn’t find the loose yoke that I expected to find. I do have four or five various frogs but. I don’t think I have a frog from a six or seven. It might be a couple more days before I can fully explore what I do have.

-- Paul, Texas

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#11 posted 10-03-2007 04:06 PM

Thanks again for all the help.

I’m in the middle of building a desk so I decided to flatten some boards rather than take the thing apart and render it useless (at least for a while). I’‘ll look for my calipers and take some detailed dimensions soon.

-- Che.

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#12 posted 10-03-2007 04:44 PM

Hmmm. You might consider a hock blade to address the mouth issue…

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#13 posted 10-03-2007 05:31 PM

The Hock blade and chip breaker is on the wishlist primarily because the original blade gets dull REALLY REALLY fast. Last night was the second night of use and I had to do a quick hone to get a good shaving. The blade was so dull after one night of use it was actually burnishing the Walnut. My LN planes can go a week or two at my rate of use without me noticing any degradation. I do try and sharpen before I notice any loss of performance.

On a side note the original blade seems to be laminated there is a clear line in the middle of the bevel.

-- Che.

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#14 posted 10-23-2007 03:20 AM

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#15 posted 10-23-2007 04:12 AM

Can anyone tell me where to look for information on planes in general. Not long ago I found an old craftsman plane that was my grandfathers. It looks like a stanley except it has Craftsman on it. I took it apart and cleaned it up some. I would like to learn the anatomy,care and use of a plane and eventually purchase others. The use of hand tools intrigues me even though I have no skills using them. It seems like a good time to start learning (I’m not to old to learn am I?).

-- Brad,--"The way to eat an eliphant is one bite at a time"

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