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pete79

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10-21-2009 05:14 PM

Topic tags/keywords: finishing question

Well I’ve been working on a heirloom toybox/blanket chest for my kids for the past month and I’m getting close to being ready to apply the finish. The toybox is made of a combination of solid birch and birch ply. My goal is to have all the legs and cross member pieces of a dark golden or brown color, with the side panels left as a natural very light birch color. Here’s a link to what I am using as my inspiration for the project:

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/Arts_Crafts_Bridal_Chest/#

So here’s the question – I believe that finishing birch is similar to maple in that blotches are a main concern (please correct me if i’m wrong). I just finished reading a lengthy forum on finishing some maple pieces that ended with this approach:

1.Sanded to 220.
2. Spray the dye.
-I mixed 5 oz of water, 5 oz of denatured alcohol, and about 100 drops of tint.
- Put in my smallest tip to the sprayer and after practicing, sprayed the color to my dresser and drawer fronts. The dye dries really quickly but I sprayed the pieces to what seemed to be a uniform color of sort of a dark burnt orange color.
3. spray the seal coat of shellac/denatured alcohol (mixed 1:1)
4. spray the minwax oil based stain – I sprayed the stain so that it was a thin layer ( I was planning on toning after this step) that was reflective to light, I immediately wiped off. There was not much to wipe off at this stage.

I’m curious about three things here:

1. Is the tinting process truly needed, or would a dark stain applied after a shellac/denatured sealer do the trick?
2. Conversly, would a similar process of tinting, followed by sealing with shellac/denatured, and finally a clear poly coat work well? Is sealing even necessary in this case if finishing with poly.
3. Preference – sprayed or wipe-on on poly???

Thanks!

-- Life is a one lap race.


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juniorjock

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#1 posted 10-24-2009 03:47 AM

I can see just by reading your question that you know a hell of a lot more about finishing than I do. I don’t have an answer for you you, but I think if we can get your question back toward the top, some of the experts will be able to give you some advise.

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#2 posted 10-24-2009 03:55 AM

Use a 1 lb cut of shellac to help control blotching after a quick scrub with 400 and then apply the stain then poly after dye is dry.

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pete79

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#3 posted 10-24-2009 04:15 AM

Thanks guys. I started the finish today, and here’s what I did:

Sanded everything to 220, then put on a thin coat of SealCoat at a 1lb cut. I let this dry for about 30 minutes and then applied General Finishes Gel Stain in “Candlelight” color. This came out looking better than I could have hoped for, and was ridiculously easy. Thanks to Marc (aka WoodWhisperer) for the idea – I got it from watching a video on finishing blotchy woods on his website.

I’m letting this all dry before putting on the poly coat. My only choice now is Arm-R-Seal Oil/Urethane wipe on, or Rockler’s Wipe-on Gel Poly. I have cans of both, but can’t decide which one to use.

-- Life is a one lap race.

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