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Forum topic by Magnus396 posted 07-24-2015 03:41 PM 1043 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Magnus396

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07-24-2015 03:41 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw lathe planer drill press miter saw router jointer plane sander tablesaw

If you had a large budget and wanted the best power tools for fine woodworking, what would you buy? Keep in mind space and price should have no bearing on your decision.


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barada83

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#1 posted 07-24-2015 08:08 PM

What are you trying to do? Cabinets? Furniture? Hobby or work? For instance, if only used for fine furniture then no need for the big panel sizing and processing you would want to make cabinets.

My dream from a perspective of hobby furniture 75% and 25% cabinets/millwork would be a panel saw, 5-hp table saw with sliding table and extended side table, and auto-feed, a large stationary belt sander 24+ inches, large planer 15+ inches, large 8” + jointer, huge cyclone dust collector with automated gates and an automated dust removal system (I’m sure someone can design and build this), 3 hp shaper with unlimited profiles and auto feed, moulding maker, 3 hp bandsaw 21” minimum opening, a mice dual bevel sliding or articulating compound miter saw, spindle sander, stationary belt/disc sander, HVLP setup with minimum 3 stages, spray booth with power venting, lathe to turn huge bowls and long spindles. Yeah, that should do nicely.

But realistically I need about half as much power and half as much capacity as what is listed to get by quite well. Space is what I lack most.

-- Mike

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daddywoofdawg

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#2 posted 07-24-2015 08:28 PM

what barada83 said but I would add a second 15” band saw with a 1/4” blade so you don’t have to stop and change blades.And a floor mount drill press with a large table.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 07-24-2015 08:35 PM

A shop full of all Northfield tools, with one exception: a Robust American Beauty lathe. That only for the big stuff.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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AHuxley

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#4 posted 07-26-2015 12:56 AM

While part of me would love to call Jeff at Northfield and order a full shop full of tools (I love the ones I have) if money were no object I wouldn’t call Northfield.

For machines it would be Martin for everything they make, tablesaw a couple of shapers, jointer, planer, widebelt, and a slot mortiser. That’s a good 1/2 million bucks there. For edge, stroke and disc sanders it would be Minimax. For bandsaws it would be the Centauro built Minimax machines. I would pick up an Ellis drill press but honestly would get a PM2800B as well, it is just the best woodworking drill press made, but there are not any high end DPs made for woodworking. The Robust AB is a no-brainer for a manual lathe, but I would get a Vega copy lathe as well. Hegner scroll saw, Format4 panel saw and CNC, OMGA radial arm saw. Haven’t seen anyone building a high end spindle sander so I might have to settle for the new Jet.

For hand power tools it would be a mix of Mirka, Mafell, Hilti and Festool. I might add a full compliment of Milwaukee 12v tools as well.

For hand tools along with layout/measuring tools it would be Bridge City, Lie-Nielson, Veritas and Woodpecker.

Out of everything above the one item I truly lust after is a fully loaded Martin T27 shaper.

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sawdust703

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#5 posted 07-26-2015 05:52 AM

Well, since we’re dreaming, may as well dream big. I think first on the list would be the top of the line Hawk scroll saw, w/all the bells & whistles. A stock of plenty of blades. A couple chucks, hollowing tool, & a newer set of lathe chisels. A new Grizzly GO766 Lathe, Maybe. An 8” planer. And a 14” Ultimate Band saw from Grizzly. And a few different blades to go w/it. Cordless tools would be Hitachi. Air nailers would all be Grip – Rite. Hand tools would be Craftsman. Wood chisels wood be a full set of Sweetheart chisels. The T10816 bench top mortising machine & chisels. A 2” belt/6” disc sander. 18” open end drum sander. Bosch sanders. Dust collector system. That’d take care of my highest dollar tools. Good post. Interesting idea.

-- Sawdust703

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AHuxley

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#6 posted 07-26-2015 07:35 AM

@ Sawdust703, I hope this doesn’t come across as picking on you but I am truly curious about your post.

Why in this fantasy space and money aside discussion would you pick a G0766 over a Robust or Oneway lathe or a 14” Grizzly cast saw over the European bandsaw offerings of Felder, Minimax and Laguna. Why the primarily Chinese Craftsman when bunches of companies like Snap-on, Wera and Knipex exist?

Again, I honestly just am trying to understand your point of view, if someone offered the fantasy of “any new car you want” I understand why many answers wouldn’t be the same as mine but I just wouldn’t expect any of the answers to be a Skoda or a Chery.

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sawdust703

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#7 posted 07-27-2015 01:38 AM

Well Huxley, first of all, no, I don’t mind ya picking on me. It happens all the time. Second, I don’t really use a lathe enough, or feel I would have enough of a future interest in it to own an expensive lathe. I’m a simple type feller, & can invest the money else where. As far as why not Snap on or etc.? Well Sir, I spent 35 years in the trucking business. OTR, as a matter of fact. Ive spent about as much time working on trucks, as I have sitting in the pilot seat. I’ve owned Snap On, Matco, you name it. IMHO, one ain’t any better than the other. I’ve had just as good a service out of Craftsman as I have Snap On. As for my choice of Grizzly tools, well, I already own Grizzly tools, & have pretty high respect for them. They have done me a fine job, & that’s what matters to me. I’m not building cabinets, furniture, or any other kind of production. I got into woodworking several years ago to help me relax, & forget about road stress for the short time I was home. Not to impress what few buddies I have with my fancy tools, & limited ability to use them. I’m a self taught wood worker, as are many. But I don’t need the finest & shiniest tools out there. Like I said, I’m a simple type feller. My fascination is the scroll saw. So, why have all them other tools around to take up space & collect dust, if you’re not going to use them? I hope this helps you to understand that not all of us think like you do. Have a good evening.

-- Sawdust703

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AHuxley

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#8 posted 07-27-2015 02:07 AM

@Sawdust

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. After reading your reply I think we have a fundamental difference in the way we interpret the question and it became clear when you stated “can invest the money elsewhere”. I always take these fantasy questions as if the money falls from the sky and can only be used for the fantasy at hand. In my response I listed the better part of a million dollars in machines and tools and for me as well as most people who are hobby woodworkers my response would have been completely different had the OP said here is $1,000,000 what would you do with it. If that were the question then I would have devoted a pretty insignificant amount to woodworking, I responded as if I couldn’t use the money for anything else.

One final note, there was a time not too long ago I would agree the biggest difference between Craftsman and Snap On was the convenience of the truck pulling up and maybe the ergonomics of a few tools but since they went offshore the quality of Craftsman hand tools has plummeted.

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Duffman

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#9 posted 07-27-2015 02:28 AM

maybe my dream is a bit smaller than everyone else’s, but I’d probably start with a large 5hp Sawstop, most, if not the full festool lineup (because I never met a festool I didn’t like), a powermatic PM1800 5hp 18in bandsaw, powermatic 14in bandsaw, some sort of super dust collection system, an 8in jointer with a helical head (not enough research done to decide what brand to go with), a 20in+ planer (not enough research done to decide what brand to go with), a large drum sander, maybe a big CNC machine… after that, I’m not really sure where to go… I think I could build just about anything with that.

-- I'm not addicted to buying tools or wood... I can stop any time I want!

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Nubsnstubs

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#10 posted 07-27-2015 04:12 AM

My dream wood shop is the tools I already have. Of course the dream goes into more detail looking for the one tool I don’t have. That would be an employee that could build a cabinet or piece of furniture about this high, this wide and this deep using hand signals to indicate the dimensions. When that employee is found, I’ll give him or her all my equipment under condition that they will support me til I die. If they’re that good, they can only make a very good profit on every thing they do from then on. The bad thing about these dreams is I always awake near 5-5:30am every morning and it’s up to me to get the job done during the rest of the day. .......... Jerry (in Tucson). l

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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sawdust703

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#11 posted 07-27-2015 05:10 AM

Pardon me for not having a dream of money falling out of the sky, Mr. Huxley, but I guess that comes from knowing the difference between reality & fantasy. As far as clarity for “can invest the money elsewhere,” just because I didn’t lay out a million dollar or bigger list of tools I don’t have any use for like you did, doesn’t necessarily mean I wouldn’t invest in other tools. As far as your comments about Craftsman tools, let me put it to you in way that is as simple as I can. Did I question your post, or your choice of tools? No, I didn’t. In short, you dream about what tools you’d like to spend the rest of your life working with, please allow me that same freedom. I reckon what I’m tryin to say is, I answered the post the way I felt I would handle the situation. Might I make a suggestion to you, Mr. Huxley? Spend less time worrying about what everybody else is/isn’t dreaming about that doesn’t conform to your dream, and mind your own affairs. You’ll have alot less to worry about.

-- Sawdust703

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