Make it easier to post photos!

Can’t allow direct uploads because people would upload viruses just for fun. With pics already online, (photobucket and such) this is the easiest forum out there. Just an ! before and after the address and pic shows.

-- Dan-- Info for all @ http://www.hoistman.com

I am also having problems. But when you know how to do it it is very easy. It is as Dan say – there is always one making problems for all of us.
Lumberjocks is since I found it my no 1 favorite. And now I can and will show you what I am doing too.

-- Steinar, Norway - - Hegner SE

Thanks for explaining that Dan. I didn’t know.

-- Father of two sons. Both Eagle Scouts.

I hadn’t thought of that Dan.

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

Yes I realise how to post a photo…but I will often not help someone because it’s too much work to download to a web host just to down load here. Then you have to edit,delete,manage your web hosting account too. I am active on many forums that are as active as this one. It’s very simple to save a sketch as a jpg on my computer then down load the photo directly to the forum…or copy and paste reference photos. Grumble grumble!

-- Dan, Sterling Alaska, http://sullcon.homestead.com/ Before you criticise some one, walk a mile in their shoes...then you will be a mile away and you have their shoes!

Unlimited picture storage can get expensive. There are many dedicated photo storage / sharing websites that excel in this area. We have limited storage of project and workshop pictures here for free.

mics_54: “I am active on many forums that are as active as this one.”
That’s exactly the main reason to use photo sharing website – upload it once there and then use provided html sharing code snippet on any forum.

To make the process as simple as direct file upload I strongly recommend using MINI-BROWSER that you can find at the bottom of the posting textbox.

Anyways, I’m not saying that LJ will not have a direct photo upload on all posts as an option in the future ;)

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

Fellow lumberjocks I am in the business of reselling web hosting plans/space and as a result have to manage several web sites and believe me that photos take a lot of space in the servers, it takes so much space in fact that many websites go as far as limiting the size and therefore the quality of the photos you upload to them.
(One of my customers is a professional photographer and therefore his website is all about photos, His haha)

As a result it would cost more $$$ for our hosts here to allow unlimited photo uploading.

By the was this cost comes from 2 principal items:

1.- Increased Hard Drive space usage. (you basically get alloted a certain amount with your hosting plan)

2.- Bandwidth. (It takes greater bandwidth to transfer pictures both upload and download when you see a picture) again the bandwidth you use is pre-allotted in the web hosting plan you bought when setting up the site, more bandwidth more cost.

When you place your photos in another site, (photobucket, flicker etc) the bandwidth used to download the photos to visualize them by your buddies is not impacting the total bandwidth used by lumberjocks.com.

Hope I didn’t confuse you further hehe, happy woodworking…

Thanks Martin, I was wondering why we could not just upload from our our computers.

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

It makes sense from a potential virus threat standpoint. I am a Computer repair tech and hate when people get viruses on thier computer

-- There is no such thing as a mistake. Its called a design modification Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

mics_54: “I am active on many forums that are as active as this one.”
That’s exactly the main reason to use photo sharing website – upload it once there and then use provided html sharing code snippet on any forum.

Martin photos maybe…but there are those of us that go out of the way to help people with images specific to the conversation we are haveing that will never be used again or found in the bazillion photos we have to keep stored. Really, it’s a pain to down load them to spamcity photobucket just to show Vern McLumberjock how to fizzle his wigit..knowhatimean?

It’s not a big complaint…just a little one.

-- Dan, Sterling Alaska, http://sullcon.homestead.com/ Before you criticise some one, walk a mile in their shoes...then you will be a mile away and you have their shoes!

Really, it’s a pain to down load them to spamcity photobucket just to show Vern McLumberjock how to fizzle his wigit.

I would suggest then that you don’t go out of your way if it’s so much trouble.

I am amazed at how lazy people are anymore.

troll

-- Dan, Sterling Alaska, http://sullcon.homestead.com/ Before you criticise some one, walk a mile in their shoes...then you will be a mile away and you have their shoes!

OUCH! Easy there, that’s not what this site is about folks. mics_54 have you tried FLICKR? I use it and it is oustide the ad trouble and pretty easy to upload to. Give it a try I think you like it after you get used to it. I too understand where the folks up top are talking about, this is a amazing site and Maritn had done a perfect job of it. We don’t want some fool with an evil mind and a bad virus to ruin it for us. Try Flickr I think you’ll find it better to use…just my two cents…like always thanks for the great job Martin.

-- Jim Hallada, Chesterfield, VA

I’ll keep my suggestions private from now on.

Anyways, I’m not saying that LJ will not have a direct photo upload on all posts as an option in the future ;)

Martin knows what I’m talking about.

-- Dan, Sterling Alaska, http://sullcon.homestead.com/ Before you criticise some one, walk a mile in their shoes...then you will be a mile away and you have their shoes!

Dan, don’t keep your suggestions private. It’s fine to discuss them here…

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

One main advantage of having pics posted directly here on Lumber Jocks is that the photos would always be available for viewing in the future. I understand, of course, that this adds cost to the site owners. Some forums actively seek contributions from their members to help defray the cost of site upkeep and maintenance, understandably so.

I’m a rather new member here and as such don’t know how many active members LJ has. Personally, I wouldn’t mind contributing 10-20 bucks per year to the site owners for the convenience of posting directly to the site and for the assurance that he pics would always be available in the future, as long as LJ exists.

The problem with using 3rd party photo hosting sites is that if they go out of business, then the photos in the various posts here on this forum aren’t going to show up when people look at older posts, as they often do.

I’ve noticed that you do allow direct photo posting in the projects section. That’s a nice feature.

I also understand that there’s no such thing as a free ride! Somebody has to pay to keep this site going. I’m sure that your ad revenue helps but is probably insufficient to pay for unlimited photo hosting.

I wonder how many people would be willing to be yearly contributors. Some would, some wouldn’t. I’m a contributor at another site and don’t mind a bit chipping in to pay my part for the service. I’ve saved enough money from information gleaned from that forum to pay for my small yearly contribution many, many times over.

On the other hand, there will always be people who expect useful forums to be free, woodworking or other genres, yet don’t complain a bit about their monthly internet service charges.

One thing that I REALLY like about Lumber jocks is that it isn’t overly moderated. The thing that I most dislike about the other main WW forum that I visit, and also contribute to, is the fact that it IS overly moderated.

So, in my opinion, your site has a very good model. I’m willing to pay my fair share in order to be able to post pics directly to the site.

One very important thing that people would need to learn how to do is to resize their files, (or the site would need to use software that automatically does that) so that pics aren’t taking up more space than necessary. I think many people don’t realize that an extremely high resolution photo isn’t going to appear any cleaner or clearer than a moderate sized file. So, there would be a learning curve involved, too.

My two cents worth…......

-- Build for the joy of it!

I’ve just spent three (3) hours trying to get a picture onto my blog, and have only been able to get a thumbnail to show up. I’ve uploaded a few pics to Picassa Albums, but when i click one of the thumbnails, this black screen thingy opens with the pic but I can’t do anything with it. So i right click the thumbnail and ‘copy image location’, and I get — a thumbnail! dang nabbit!

Can someone tell me (step by step) how to get a picture into a blog?

I have no problem getting pictures into ‘My Shop’ and ‘Projects’ from my HDD’s folders. I can resize images with a stand-along program within my folders. But this web album/image location-address thing is dirving me nutz.

Please, gurus, see my blog and tell me what I’m doing wrong. Thanks very much.

Rich99

-- Far-North Wood-Works (a fantasy company)

Martin, you know if you gave us direct upload capability, we would just find something else to bitch about….:) You can’t win for lose.

-- I don't make mistakes, only design changes....www.dgmwoodworks.com

Never mind—I figured it out! Pretty easy, too.

On Picassa Albums, if you click the little arrow in the corner of the thumbnail, that black thingy opens with the unusable image. If you click the image itself, however, it opens to the full size image. Then (and only then) you can copy the image address, and use it for the LJ blogs.

Now I have a few dozen images to upload to Picassa Albums… then upload them from there to LJ.

grumble, grumble, grumble.

-- Far-North Wood-Works (a fantasy company)

There seems to be a solution to the problem of bandwidth and hosting costs, in relation to direct uploads, at least to me. It would seem reasonable to offer a Premium Member program where your projects, blogs, etc. are hosted locally for a fee. SEE said they would pay, and I’d think there are more people who would be willing to do the same. Just a thought. Can’t really see any downsides to it as long as basic membership remained what it already is.

-- Ooo, er.

Martin, you know if you gave us direct upload capability, we would just find something else to bitch about….:) You can’t win for lose.

I agree Martin..could you also make all the responses to my suggestions a bit more relevent, interesting and entertaining? :)

-- Dan, Sterling Alaska, http://sullcon.homestead.com/ Before you criticise some one, walk a mile in their shoes...then you will be a mile away and you have their shoes!

Is there a compromise if we have a graphic of 200×200 to directly upload?

My experience that those are small enough, yet readily able to be viewed. [some sites limit to 1,000×1,000]

I keep my online security setting at medium plus, but still after getting sent to some of those offsite photo sites to view an LJ picture there are a number of background popups that I need to cancel. I don’t backup my hard drive every night and it makes me anxious.

Steve.

SEE, Skarp… Please DO NOT MENTION “FEE”.

or ”PREMIUM MEMBER”. (what is this? a dating site?)

Don’t give them any ideas.

-- Far-North Wood-Works (a fantasy company)