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Combo Prof

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07-15-2015 07:26 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question rust organization

I am drowning in collected hand tools. So many it is difficult to find places for them and to determine which gets restored first. So I ask what do you do? How do you manage your rusty acquisitions? How do you determine who gets treated first? Where do you store your admitted patients waiting to see the doctor? I have mine segregated by type in well labeled cardboard boxes stacked up on a table taking up valuable shop space. I work on either the most valuable or the easiest first.

-- Don K, (Houghton, Michigan)


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bandit571

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#1 posted 07-15-2015 07:41 PM

In the Dungeon Shop ReHab Center…strictly a first in, first out operation. Whichever comes into the shop first, 99% of the time will get “treated” first. Then the next in line as soon as it can be arranged.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#2 posted 07-15-2015 07:45 PM

I like to batch them together. If im sharpening and refurbing saws, ill do 2 at a time. If im sharpening planes and irons ill do 3-4 at a time. Chisels the same way. I like refurbs in between projects as little fillers to occupy my time. Every now and then I like to let the rust bug die down and catch up on derusting and tuning until the itch gets real bad again. Then we hunt!

Or you could send me all your backsaws and ill store them until you find room.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#3 posted 07-15-2015 07:50 PM

Combo, I agree, it’s a real challenge.

When stuff comes back from auctions or flea markets or the like, the first thing I try to do is complete whatever refurb / cleanup that’s necessary right away (like Bandit, above). If the work gets put off at all, it becomes more of a “out of sight, out of mind” thing that ends in clutter. I really do try to keep unusable tool stocks to a minimum (notable exceptional being saws; those bloody things are everywhere…)

Something else that may help is the idea of finite shop storage. What I mean is, settle on where your ‘keepers’ and or user tools are going to live, and commit to living within that space. Something else shows up, it either has to fit OR it (or something else) goes away. In other words, prevent triage from happening at all.

Of course, none of this applies if you don’t mind having a restoration backlog and really do just want to keep it organized. In that case, though, it still might help to stop accumulating until you’re caught up and can clean / refurb in real time, as they arrive.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#4 posted 07-15-2015 08:01 PM

Most rescues get cleaned up pretty quick except for saws. I leave the saws out in the open hanging on peg hooks as a motivator. It’s beginning to work as I’m rehabbing two 7’s. There are a couple of woodies needing a little attention right now but that’s it.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#5 posted 07-15-2015 08:58 PM

Thanks for the input. I’m little frustrated and overwhelmed.

I used to be able to get rescues cleaned up right away, but it got away from me. I have now 11 bench planes to do 6 of which are top grade, 4 are B-grade and 1 is well crap. Then 5 woodies and a half dozen wooden moulding planes. 7 braces, 2 breast drills, an unusual egg beater, 5 saw sets, a couple of saw jointers, a dozen or so chisels, a brazillion saws, other interesting rusted bits and a post drill. (The post drill is rust free and just needs a good cleaning). Much was put on hold from last year when winter arrives (Oct 30 to May 15) and I am working full time. This year I’ve been focused on the work bench build which got interrupted and covered with rusty tools. I had to start boxing them up so that I could move around the shop and get back to the build. I shall finish the boxing up tomorrow.

I’d like the rust bug to die down, but how can you turn down a $10 Stanley bench plane or a $2 brace or some of the other deals I got like the recent tool chest containing the 46, the 45 clone, the 78 clone, scorp, draw knife and more.

This is only my second summer of rust hunting. It just to easy for me to get tools in my own back yard.

I tell myself that I am collecting extras to trade for the tools I want. For example does anyone have a cabinet scraper (Stanley 80-87) to sell or trade?

-- Don K, (Houghton, Michigan)

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ElChe

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#6 posted 07-15-2015 09:13 PM

Hi my name is Don and I have a tool problem.

Hi Don!

TA (tools anonymous)

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#7 posted 07-15-2015 10:43 PM

Get some kind of organization. That’s an idea.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#8 posted 07-15-2015 11:18 PM

Well, all I can say is you have it easy. Imagine if you had a penchant for old jointers like I do.

To date, I have always managed bail out at the last moment and blame it on my tiny shop not having room…but one of these days I’ll be carting home a forty thousand pound 1905 jointer and trying to find a way to shoe-horn it into my dinky shop.

If only I had some itty bitty hand tools to deal with. :)

-- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Unfortunately, it was in my shop, so I will probably never find it again.

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#9 posted 07-15-2015 11:23 PM

My system is most important interesting first.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#10 posted 07-15-2015 11:42 PM

3 saws came in today…...3 saws are now cleaned up. 1 still needs some hardware, IF I can find the right ones.

Middle one was first, then the biggie, then the runt. Middle has a “Clearcut” logo on the plate.

Middle one also has all of it’s hardware, too…

Two larger ones MIGHT be by Bishop???

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#11 posted 07-16-2015 01:59 AM

Thanks for letting me talk this out. It is very therapeutic.

Bandit I suppose that was punishment for when I accidentally posted “rust collection” in the “saws” forum. If so, well done, I have been suitably admonished and will try not to do it agin.

-- Don K, (Houghton, Michigan)

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#12 posted 07-16-2015 02:36 AM

Nothing of the sort. This is simply how MY shop works. Nothing more. When a rusticle comes in the door, it goes on a clock, and will get done as soon as I can get there. Don’t have much else to do ( retirement is grand, that way)so I do have quite a bit more time than most to clean off any rustiness. THEN I can go out and hunt some more…....Unless they just walk in the door on their own accord….

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#13 posted 07-16-2015 03:02 AM

O.K. my mistake. I do look forward to retirement within the next 5 years. Just have to finish one Ph.D. student and figure out health care. The plan is to build a wood shop while I still have a disposable income. Hence the fervent tool collection. Unfortunately I basically only get a part year to do this, while the weather is nice. I don’t have the room in the shop to do all of it. I do a lot of the rust removal outside.

-- Don K, (Houghton, Michigan)

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#14 posted 07-16-2015 07:33 PM

Traded off an old tricycle this morning….got a PS&W 3410 brace with a 10/16” bit

and a small smoother plane

I set both down on a table, took the brace and bit apart, and cleaned both up first, as they were the easier of the two to do. Photo is after a clean up. Then, I could work on the plane for a while….it is now making shavings.

Usually, I don’t waste a lot of time, items go right into the rehab center. Then, I can go about finding WHAT they are….after the cloud of rust-dust settles.

PS&W 3410 Brace? 10” sweep? Not sure about the wood used on it.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#15 posted 07-16-2015 08:45 PM

I have all my future restoration projects grouped by type in boxes and stacked up. The vertical storage allowed me to
sweep out a large enough area that I can get back to workbench build. I also restored 2 calipers, 2 dividers, a wrench, a saw, two marking gauges, and a draw knife. Was going to do more but decided it was best to get back to the work bench. Tomorrow I think SWAMBO will have me painting the basement laundry room. During the heat of the day.
Anyway progress is made slowly. A final dry fit of the workbench top clamping is done and will do the actual glue up after dinner. Next its flattening the top and making mortises. Then … more restoration. But Saturday is an auction to go to …. and so more rust will come home.

-- Don K, (Houghton, Michigan)

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