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sawdustjunkie

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07-09-2015 08:03 PM

I have tried 3 times to contact Oneida and they haven’t returned any of my calls or emails!

Does anyone know what the CFM drop is on the Super Dust Deputy (standard plastic one)

I have it hooked to a Harbor Freight and also have the Wynn filter in lieu of the standard cloth bag.

It sure seems like it’s quite alot

It works ok but there is a big difference in CFM when I bypass the Dust Deputy.

Thanks in advance

Steve

-- Steve: Franklin, WI


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AZWoody

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#1 posted 07-09-2015 08:51 PM

I can’t tell you what the drop would be but I did a side by side with the HF dust collector running with no filter to get max capacity and there was no difference in drop between the super dust deuty, the metal one or a traschan separator lid, the molded plastic one. That was a major surprise to me. I thought the flow should have been much better on the dust deputy vs the trashcan.

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#2 posted 07-09-2015 10:24 PM

Subjectively it is quite a bit.
With my underpowered 1 1/2HP Jet I’m not getting much dust out the exhaust. I can’t give you numbers.

I think it also depends a little on the size of your collector can.

You did seal the collector can lid, right?

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#3 posted 07-09-2015 10:48 PM

I have the Dust Deputy sitting on a 30 gal trash can and it has a very good seal on it. When it is running I can lift the whole can without the lid coming off.
Should I get a larger trash can or a 55 gal drum? I don’t really know if that would do anything to increase the air volume with the Deputy connected.

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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#4 posted 07-16-2015 04:10 PM

I talked to tech guy at PennState Ind the other day and he basically told me my 1100CFM blower on top of the Super DD is “mickey mouse” and I needed at least 500 more.

I’ve been looking for a blower/motor unit.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#5 posted 07-16-2015 04:52 PM

I am quite sure the Harbor Freight doesn’t have the horse power to really compete with some of the other dust collectors out there. I have been thinking about upgrading to a larger dust collector and continue using the Super Dust deputy with the new unit. I don’t think it is necessary for me to go and buy a cyclone collector since I already have the deputy. I will probably just get a higher H.P. unit an hook it up the same way I have it now.

Is this correct thinking or am I wasting my money by not going to a collector with the cyclone already attached.

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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#6 posted 07-16-2015 09:59 PM



I am quite sure the Harbor Freight doesn t have the horse power to really compete with some of the other dust collectors out there. I have been thinking about upgrading to a larger dust collector and continue using the Super Dust deputy with the new unit. I don t think it is necessary for me to go and buy a cyclone collector since I already have the deputy. I will probably just get a higher H.P. unit an hook it up the same way I have it now.

Is this correct thinking or am I wasting my money by not going to a collector with the cyclone already attached.

- sawdustjunkie

The limiting factor on the dust deputy with a higher rated motor is the inlets and outlets on it.
I believe it’s 5” in and 6” out.

When you start getting into higher horsepowers, you will need 6” in and around 8” out to start.

Now, you might be able to get away with it at 3hp as I think that’s the largest Oneida has rated for the Super Dust Deputy but you’re really going to want 6” for your ducting and connections at the tools.

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#7 posted 07-16-2015 10:47 PM

I am quite sure the Harbor Freight doesn’t have the horse power to really compete with some of the other dust collectors out there. I have been thinking about upgrading to a larger dust collector and continue using the Super Dust deputy with the new unit. I don’t think it is necessary for me to go and buy a cyclone collector since I already have the deputy. I will probably just get a higher H.P. unit an hook it up the same way I have it now.

Is this correct thinking or am I wasting my money by not going to a collector with the cyclone already attached.

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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#8 posted 07-16-2015 11:03 PM

I only have 1 machine connected to the dust collector at a time. I just don’t have the room to run ducting all over the garage.
That being said, I could still have a somewhat larger unit just to get the CFM up.
With the Harbor Freight being 1.5 H.P, I could go to possible a Grizzly that has a true 2 H.P. motor with a larger impeller without having to run ducts all over. Or am I not thinking correctly on this idea?

P.S. Sorry for the doubble post

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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#9 posted 07-17-2015 12:55 PM

I think you’re missing the design intent of the Dust Deputy and trying to make it something that it’s not. A Dust Deputy is designed to be used with a shop vac. It is NOT a separator for a large shop dust collector. The inlet and outlet sizes should tell you that. I have a Dust Deputy that is hooked in line with a re-purposed central vacuum cleaner that I use when doing scroll sawing and sanding with a ROS and 1/4 sheet pad sander. It sepasrates the fine saw dust to keep the vacuum filter from loading up. It does a great job for this purpose. I don’t try to use it to collect sawdust from the planer, table saw, etc. This is a job for a full size 1 1/2 – 3 hp 5 – 6” piped system dust collector like a Clear Vue.

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#10 posted 07-17-2015 01:28 PM



I think you re missing the design intent of the Dust Deputy and trying to make it something that it s not. A Dust Deputy is designed to be used with a shop vac. It is NOT a separator for a large shop dust collector. The inlet and outlet sizes should tell you that. I have a Dust Deputy that is hooked in line with a re-purposed central vacuum cleaner that I use when doing scroll sawing and sanding with a ROS and 1/4 sheet pad sander. It sepasrates the fine saw dust to keep the vacuum filter from loading up. It does a great job for this purpose. I don t try to use it to collect sawdust from the planer, table saw, etc. This is a job for a full size 1 1/2 – 3 hp 5 – 6” piped system dust collector like a Clear Vue.

- CharleyL

I believe you’re thinking of the standard Dust Deputy. The Super Dust Deputy designed for dust collectors, not vacuums.

Steve, what kind of hose/ducting system do you use? That also can be a factor in efficiency. I have a Thien separator on my HF DC, and with a ducting system and minimal hose, it works well. There is a CFM drop, but the CFMs are adequate. I wanted a Super DD, but didn’t want to spend the money!

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#11 posted 07-17-2015 05:26 PM



I only have 1 machine connected to the dust collector at a time. I just don t have the room to run ducting all over the garage.
That being said, I could still have a somewhat larger unit just to get the CFM up.
With the Harbor Freight being 1.5 H.P, I could go to possible a Grizzly that has a true 2 H.P. motor with a larger impeller without having to run ducts all over. Or am I not thinking correctly on this idea?

P.S. Sorry for the doubble post

- sawdustjunkie

Even if one at a time, with a 4” hose and 4” ports, you’ll hit a max cfm that will not come close to what you’ll need that some machines can produce.

It all comes down to your goal. Do you want something that can keep chips from accumulating on the floor or are you wanting to keep the find particles from getting into the air?
There’s no right or wrong, just what you reasonably expect the dust collector to do.

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#12 posted 07-17-2015 08:15 PM

Steve,

Can you tell us more about your setup to include dust collector, inlet/outlet attachments, pipe runs, hose runs, etc. so we can get an idea of whats going on. Thank you sir.

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#13 posted 07-18-2015 12:13 AM

My setup is very simple:
Harbor Freight Dust collector, Wynn filter in lieu of the bag that comes with the collector, Super Dust Deputy (Plastic one) sitting on top of a 35 gal trash can and is sealed quite well.
The hoses are all 4” and are also sealed well. As far as I can tell, I don’t seem to have any leaks, because there is very little dust coming from the unit.
I even have the plastic bag taped to the metal ring and get no dust leak from the edges.
I have the Rockler plastic hose connected to the unit and only hook it up to one machine at a time.

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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