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ClammyBallz

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07-09-2015 06:06 PM

I want to make two storage cabinets for my shop out of white melamine to match up with another cabinet I already have. The cabinets will be 84” high x 36” wide x 24” deep. My idea is to make the frames out of poplar (which I already have a bunch of) and paint the frames white. What’s the best procedure to go about mounting the frame? Should I paint the frame first, then mount it with pocket screws inside? Is there a better mounting method? Or maybe some other way I should go about this?


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#1 posted 07-09-2015 06:42 PM

I don’t think pocket screws in particle board will work because the PB will collapse or break out when tightened.

I would screw/glue the face frames directly onto the particle board make sure use screws specified for PB.

Plug or fill holes.

Question: why not go frameless and avoid it completely?

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#2 posted 07-09-2015 07:11 PM

Make you a 3/4” x 3/4” cleat the length of your face frame styles for both sides of the cabinet. Pre drill screw holes in one side to attach the cleat to the melamine side panel. Pre drill screw holes (offset from the other holes) to attach the side panel to the face frames. We put the screws about 8” apart.

Attach the cleat to the melamine side panels first with the proper screws and glue. Lay the face frames down flat, set the side panel on the face frames and then screw the side panel down to the face frames.

We built this same style cabinet for a hospital several years ago with no problems and they get banged on many times a day. I’ve enclosed you a drawing of the set up. You can’t see the cleat from the outside of the cabinets when the doors are open with 2” face frames. We also used glue between the side panel, cleats and face frames. You can also mortice the two together for more added strength using the cleat method.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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ClammyBallz

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#3 posted 07-09-2015 07:22 PM

Thanks Bruce! That seems like it will hold a lot better.

Should I paint the frame before I attach it? If so, would would be the best glue to use after it’s painted?
Or maybe skip painting the back of the frame where it will attach?

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#4 posted 07-09-2015 08:20 PM

I’ve got to go into a commercial project planning meeting in a few minutes with my 5 mouthy daughters and when I get out I’ll make you some drawings of how we add the strength into melamine cabinets this size. I’ll also take a look a the last melamine project we did and get the name of the glue for you.

We very seldom paint the back of the face frames. We do either way depending on the project as far as painting the face frames, prime, paint before hand or wait until the cabinets are built. We’ve built many a melamine cabinet over the years mostly for medical offices and hospitals using this method and it’s never failed us.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#5 posted 07-09-2015 11:36 PM

Do you have a nail gun?
Just glue it and nail it, putty the holes and paint. It’s not going anywhere. No need to overthink it.
I’ve built hundreds of cabinets glued and nailed.

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#6 posted 07-10-2015 02:09 AM


Thanks Bruce! That seems like it will hold a lot better.

Should I paint the frame before I attach it? If so, would would be the best glue to use after it s painted?
Or maybe skip painting the back of the frame where it will attach?

- ClammyBallz

Give Titebond Melamine Glue a try. I think Woodcraft and Amazon carry it in sizes similar to the regular glue bottles. We get our glues from a w/s vendor in larger quantities.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#7 posted 07-10-2015 03:46 AM

A friend of mine with a cabinet shop told me to use Roo Glue with melamine. What little I’ve done with it seems to hold just fine.

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