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Stretchers...or no stretchers?

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woodchips

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48 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: spalted sweetgum gum sweet walnut black walnut coffeetable coffee table

Hey All,

Okay this is a question for all you style mongers out there (ie: everybody) I am not really concerned about the strength of the legs but I’m wondering if I ought to put stretchers in here for more stylistic flair…or not. Now I know some of you might say, “well it just depends on what you like…” That’s not good enough for me, what I’m looking for are YOUR opinions. Stretchers I’m considering putting in would consist of two short stretchers on each end of the table then one 4 or 5 inch wide stretcher connecting the two end stretchers.

Anyway chime in if you would, I’m curious to hear some opinions.

Thanks,
~isaac

here’s some pics of the table as…not finished with oil on the bottom yet.

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-- "Who but a fool would discard seeminly useless parts? To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent engineering" -- Aldo Leopold

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a1Jim

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48 days ago

I would not put stretchers in unless the have a unique design or contrasting wood something other than just straight stretchers. The table is already beautiful with wonderful wood and great design.

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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woodchips

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48 days ago

thanks Jim,
that’s the way i’ve been leaning but i’m gonna wait to hear more.

~isaac

-- "Who but a fool would discard seeminly useless parts? To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent engineering" -- Aldo Leopold

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TopamaxSurvivor

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48 days ago

I like it the way it is.

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scottishrose

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48 days ago

If you are looking for opinions, here goes.
I would say no streachers since the legs get larger going down streachers might tend to make it look bottom heavy. Unless, well, you are expecting a really big guest to use it for an ottoman regularly.
I like the two tone wood in the legs and the wood contrast in the top. Let that shine.

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Edward E Nock II

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48 days ago

Issac…..I agree w/ scottishrose as well as the others. The table is not for sitting, therefore, theres hould be no racking. If your table legs tapered down (top to bottom), cross strecher might work., but that’s another day. Stay w/ what you have.

ED

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bentlyj

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48 days ago

Looks like a good strong table. No Stretchers

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ajosephg

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48 days ago

I say no

-- Joe

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Kindlingmaker

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48 days ago

It looks great as it is! ...but if you did want to add something I could invision arches instead of straight stretchers…jm2c

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AaronK

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48 days ago

i agree: no stretchers. they would at best not be much seen, and at worst make the lower portion look to cluttered.

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patron

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48 days ago

yup ,
no stretchers ,
its already busy enough .

sure is beautiful !

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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woodchips

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48 days ago

Ah Man!

I knew you guys would come through. I really appreciate all the opinions, I kept postponing putting the stretchers in because something just didn’t feel right and now you’ve all backed up my gut feeling. I guess it just goes to prove that old saying about “trusting your gut first”.

thanks Guys,
~isaac

-- "Who but a fool would discard seeminly useless parts? To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent engineering" -- Aldo Leopold

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dustbunny

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48 days ago

Okay, so all you have are man opinions.
Here’s an opinion from the other half…
The table is plain to me.
I would like to see the bell bottom legs accentuated with end stretchers, wide at legs tapering narrow to center of stretcher. Then a center stretcher the length of the table, straight length.
It will give it a sturdier look and set of the beautiful tapering of the legs.

Just my opinion, if all of you still disagree….I’m calling your wives !! LOL

Lisa

-- I inherited the woodworking gene and it's gone into overdrive.......

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woodchips

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48 days ago

Lisa,
thanks for chiming in, you got a laugh out loud from me on the “calling your wives” comment! I’d considered doing stretchers similar to what you described but with a small shelf !

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so now with your opinion on the table, i guess i’m still gonna agonize over it for a few more days or so. and of course i’m still welcoming any and all opinions on this matter.

~isaac

-- "Who but a fool would discard seeminly useless parts? To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent engineering" -- Aldo Leopold

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Chris Wright

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48 days ago

I say no to the stretchers. I don’t think the legs need anything to accent them as it is. Besides, it looks as though you’ve already got a finish on it (I could be wrong, can’t access the hosting site and see larger pics, down side to working at a government facility), so to put the stretchers in you’d have to either cut mortises or drill dowel holes and if the tables already got a coat of finish, then I’d assume that the tables been assembled and that would make it very difficult to cut or drill accurately and you run the risk of ruining the piece.

-- "At its best, life is completely unpredictable." - Christopher Walken

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patron

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48 days ago

how about a mock up of the idea ,
on some cans or something ,
just to look at it ?
then you will be able to see it both ways before plunging in .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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Rick Dennington

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48 days ago

At this point I would say “no ” to the stretchers, cause like Chris said, it looks like you’ve already finished it, and already have a finish on it. But— in the building process, if you were going to put in a bottom shelf, then that would have been the time to do it. Otherwise, now you would run into problems , and it would look like “add-ons” came later. Leave it alone!! I’ve made coffee tables with and without stretchers, and bottom shelves, but as you know, it all has to be done in the woodworking/ building. That’s my 2 cents.

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woodchips

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48 days ago

only the tabletop is finished. the skirt and the legs aren’t finished with anything yet and the top is not yet attached…so the possibilities are still endless, almost.

~isaac

-- "Who but a fool would discard seeminly useless parts? To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent engineering" -- Aldo Leopold

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rhett

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48 days ago

I think that the only type of stretcher that would work with that table would be a large cross stretcher from diagonal leg to diagonal leg where your smaller top rests in the middle.

On a side note, that sweet gum is floating in that walnut frame, right?

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woodchips

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48 days ago

Rhett,

my wife actually had the same idea, she said that any other type of stretcher might seem too plain.

and castigate me if you will, but no the sweet gum isn’t floating in the walnut frame, it’s all pocket holed together. i know, i know…i may have problems with movement but with as muggy as it is here in deep East Texas (where yesterday it was 85 with 95% relative humidity and today it’s in the mid 70’s with 90% humidity and next week it might even dry up a bit) anyway it seems like any problems i could be looking at would’ve at least manifested a little bit by now. the top has been together now for about a month, in my garage shop.

thanks for the input/warning?
~isaac

-- "Who but a fool would discard seeminly useless parts? To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent engineering" -- Aldo Leopold

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scottishrose

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47 days ago

Hey dust bunny, I’m not a guy and I don’t have a wife! You think any of these guys would call themselves scottishrose?

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CaptainSkully

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45 days ago

I love the look of the table, as it is now. It reminds me of Cypress trees growing up out of the water. Because of the Asian influence, I have to think they would add more structure to the table. Arched “I” stretchers or a diagonal cross-stretcher, possibly capped off with a small interior shelf seems appropriate to me. I think the former is more basic, but you’ve already gone artsy, so the latter would be going all the way. I’m thinking a couple of Sketchup drawings might be in order. You’ve made such a beautiful piece, and you still seem so conflicted. I totally empathize…

-- You can't control the wind, but you can trim your sails

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Jeff28078

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45 days ago

I think you also need to consider what you’re going to use the table for. Would stretchers get in the way of, for example, chairs? Also, what do you want to attract attention? I think the pattern of the sweetgum against walnut draws the eye. It’s a beautiful job. You don’t need to add extra detail to draw the eye away from the top. But that’s my opinion.

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dustyal

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35 days ago

Lisa should have thought of this… it is much easier to run a vacuum sweeper or dust mop under the table without stretchers. But, I’m not an expert at those gadgets… just ask my wife.

-- Al H. - small shop, small projects...

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Ed Elizondo

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35 days ago

Make a mockup of cardboard and place it on there. The table should have balance. What is the focal point.

-- Ed E. " Taking one board at a time "

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