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Forum topic by Eric_S posted 10-06-2009 09:28 PM 9492 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-06-2009 09:28 PM

My small garage shop currently only has a 16gal Rigid shop vac for dust collection (besides my half-mask P100 filter). This vac drives me nuts. Its power cord gets in the way of everything I do, and its the loudest thing I own, even more so than my table saw and router. Also, since its the old model, it doesn’t accept filter bags so the HEPA filter i have on it clogs very frequently. I know I can add a cyclone to help but that means even more tubes getting in my way. I have a small shop so the less clutter the better.

I was wondering if the Rockler Wall Mount Dust Collector would be a good alternative? It only has a 3/4 hp motor but I’m guessing it doesnt need much since its a dry vac only. Is it’s 650cfm enough for a 12 1/2 planer/bandsaw/router table/ table saw?

I don’t know what the Rigid’s cfm is. Is it much quieter than a shop vac? Can anyone recommend this based on my issues with current shop vac?


-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#1 posted 10-06-2009 09:37 PM

I use a $99 dust collector from HF (it’s red). They list it at 1hp and I think 650 CFM (probably well overstated). A shop vac is about 200 CFM. My dust collector works just fine for my needs and price point. It is only attached to one tool at a time and handles all my dust adequately. I am sure a bigger two stage DC would be better, but I just don’t have the room for it.

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#2 posted 10-06-2009 10:25 PM

I have a cheapo DC (Craftex 1HP 570CFM) for my tablesaw and bandsaw. It’s a 2 bag one on casters though. Don’t expect miracles, but it does capture a lot of of the bigger sawdust and save me a lot of cleanup, and I can live with vacuuming up the finer stuff afterwards and use a mask for the stuff I can’t see. Sometimes your electrical circuit will determine what DC you can use in your shop also.

The Rockler’s bag does look a little small for joiner/planer shavings if you’re running alot of boards. You may still want to consider a cyclone lid or something. And to note 30 micron/5 micron bag would be a downgrade from your HEPA vacuum.

Mine works well enough and it is much quieter than my craftsman shopvac. No need for ear plugs and you can actually carry out a conversation with it on.

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#3 posted 10-06-2009 11:01 PM

Hey FatScratch, I too would like to get a larger 2 bag one but I just don’t have that kind of room either.

RedShirt, a cyclone lid with this one sounds like a better option. I’m not happy about the downgrade in micron bag but I’ll be ok. I have a HEPA filter on the back of a box fan that I can put close by the bag, plus I always wear the half-mask when doing anything other than hand planing. On that note, I don’t plan on getting a jointer anytime soon since I don’t mind doing one face by hand for now, but a planer is defintely going to be purchased in the next few months. I don’t mind emptying the bag frequently from planing either so this might be right then. Thanks for the help.

I think I’ll hold off for a little bit, as I’m about to purchase me a new Delta 28-276 14” Bandsaw in a week or so. I can’t believe the price difference between Rockler and Lowes on this one though. Its the same model but the prices are VERY different, $399 vs $549.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#4 posted 10-07-2009 03:27 AM

I was looking at the rocker wall mount one also. I ended up getting one of the HF ones for less than half the price and hung it from the ceiling with the bag hanging down. It’s more than enough for 1 machine at a time. The bag does fill up quickly. I did get rockler’s expandable hose. I’d highly recommend that for anyone.

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#5 posted 10-07-2009 04:36 AM

I own one and It works well for me. It’s pretty quiet. You will have to buy a 4” hose separately but it’s worth it. I would get the 5 micron bag also. I posted a mobile stand set up with the DC.
I would recommend setting it up as a two stage unit in order to separate larger chips from saw dust. You can damage the impeller if a larger piece gets sucked into the DC unit.

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#6 posted 10-07-2009 04:07 PM

I have a ProTech DC that is similar to the one Rockler sells. I tossed the 30-micron bag (it puts a lot of fine dust back into the air) and replaced it with a 5-micron bag. Perfromance was OK, but it has been sidelined by a ShopVac with a HEPA filter and an Oneida Dust Deputy. I have used the Dust Deputy with my planer, jointer, table saw, and pretty much every other tool in the shop. Yes … I do have to empty the bucket more often than I had to empty the DC bag, and I did have to install 4” to 2 1/2” reducers on the planer and jointer, but for me the Shop Vac/Dust Deputy combo is a better solution. I do have an air cleaner (ShopVac) mounted on the wall in the shop.

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#7 posted 10-07-2009 04:52 PM

To be blunt, none of those single bag portable jobs like that have fine enough filtration, or draw enough CFM to be effective at FINE DUST collection, which is what we should be trying to control. You will get some benefit from collection of chips and shavings, but even then, the bag will fill up way too fast to be anything but a nuisance.

I know it is a long tome to read, but if you are going to be considering dust collection, you really should read Bill Pentz’ website.

For most of us, his page on cartridge conversion for a single stage DC is what you want to pay particular attention to.

Mind you, I am NO EXPERT in the field, but I have had some deep discussions face to face with experts in the field. Bill’s assertion for 6” pipe is debated as being a bit overzealous and based on some questionable numbers, however 4” with a bunch of bends, and flex line is NOT a good answer either. Keep your duct straight, avoid going up and down as much as you can, use a separator of some sort to keep from plugging the filter and you are good.

My approach, for right or wrong, is this…

Keep the Shop Vac for those tasks that require the high static lift of a proper vacuum like hand held sanders. That is fitted with a HEPA filter, and run through a Thien trash can cyclone.

Now in order to conserve precious floor space, the vac, and separator are in a stacker arrangement. (See the 4th post down.) So I am not using up any more floor space than just the vac.

For those machines that can take advantage of the 4” port, either in stock form, or be easily modified to do so, needed the higher CFM of a proper dust collector. I grabbed a Harbor Freight 2HP machine, and fitted it with a Wynn 35A filter. With the cartridge filter in place, it is SUBSTANTIALLY shorter than stock. I am planning on building a stacker of sorts to get this off the floor, (and get some of the length and bends out of the hose connecting it to the separator). The space below it is going to be used for a not yet in my shop horizontal tank air compressor.

If I could have afforded it at the time, I would have gotten a Delta 50-760 1.5 HP DC, fitted it with the same filter I did, and placed the pre separator in the spot just under the impeller housing.

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#8 posted 10-07-2009 05:11 PM

Thanks everyone for the inputs. I think I’ll hold off for a little while I research more products..

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#9 posted 10-07-2009 05:38 PM

Thanks for the link DBhost to Bill Pentz’s site. Anyone use this or know if this will be a big improvement?

Its a convertor for Rigid Shop vac that I have.

It sells for $200 plus $40 for shipping though, so not sure if its really worth it.

Also, regarding shop vac noise I found this article from Fine Woodworking

Its an enclosure that reduces noise by 25db to around 58db!!!

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#10 posted 04-26-2015 05:56 PM

Many years later…. what did you end up doing? Did you get the Rockler wall mounted dust collector?

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#11 posted 04-27-2015 01:59 AM


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