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TopamaxSurvivor

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10-06-2009 07:19 AM

Topic tags/keywords: markets economy

Check out this from the Wall Street Journal. Analyst says the mass market is dead. http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2007/01/08/plutonomics/

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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#1 posted 10-06-2009 06:07 PM

Hi Bob, I’m glad he finally figured out something most of us have known most of our lives.

Wealthy Northwest indians (as I’m sure you know better than me) would hold a potlatch to give away all their worldly possessions to the other tribe members. This act gave them great prestige which was much more important than material wealth in their society. I guess the theory is that you can’t eat more than one chicken a day no matter how rich you are. I am a great advocate of this idea. If we ever change over to it, I guess it would be great to be invited to a Bill Gates potlatch. Maybe you could let me know in case I don’t hear about it here in Norway?

I’m sorry, I couldn’t remember the name of the tribe. They deserve more/better recognition than I have given them here.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#2 posted 10-06-2009 08:28 PM

If there are even rumors of Bill’s potlatch, I’ll let you know, but he’s giving it all way in third world countries right now. There were a lot of little tribes here in the Pacific NW. Seems like one for every river valley. With the rich salmon culture they didn’t have to cover wide areas like those of the continental climate.

I thought this should be of great interest to those running wood shops. I have been telling people for years, due to my perspective of occasionally being an employer, employment is dying in America. With the current state of affairs, the official unemployment rate of 10%, it looks like the market will continue to dwindle for custom made hand work for the foreseeable future.

I heard a discussion of this report on the radio yesterday. The analyst at Citi Group who made analysis warned the financiers of a political backlash. With the conglomerates owning the media, ignorance will probably prevent that until things get substantially worse than they are now.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#3 posted 10-06-2009 08:38 PM

There are many tribes and divisions of Northwest Natives but they all fall into six major distinct groups; Tlingit, Tsimshian, Haida, Kwaguitl, West Coast (Nootka) and Coast Salish.
Most particularly the Kwaguitl.

Cheers
Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#4 posted 10-06-2009 09:23 PM

They were all wood workers too:-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#5 posted 10-06-2009 10:03 PM

I have a copy of a “how to make a totem pole” book that I keep threatening to break out if I get myself a big enough cedar pole ;)

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#6 posted 10-06-2009 11:02 PM

Thanks Bob#2, I think it must be the tlingit I’m thinking about. And yes Bob Z. they were fantastic woodworkers. I’ve got some of that info in a book around here somewhere.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#7 posted 10-07-2009 12:02 AM

“They were all wood workers too:-))”

Topmax old buddy I want you to take a gander at this:

The ocean canoes just blow me away!

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#8 posted 10-07-2009 12:24 AM

I always wanted to make a totem pole, but i don’t have a cedar pole big enough ;-(( a friend of mine did make one that is at our rifle range in University Place near Tacoma. Another freid made one of those dougouts about 16-18 feet long. Took 12 big men and a small boy to move it!! He used to bring it to the Cascade Mountain Men’s muzzle loading gunshow to display it every year.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#9 posted 10-07-2009 12:57 AM

I guess I’ll keep my day job, and woodworking will remain hobby status.

... war and financial crises. good thing we don’t have any of that.

-- Chuck, Washington D.C.

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