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Forum topic by scottishrose posted 10-03-2009 08:23 AM 1186 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-03-2009 08:23 AM

I’m back with another question.
I did get the stile steamed off the raised panel door that my woodworking instuctor stained after I asked him not to and then glued up after I asked him If I could take it home and do that. I sanded all the yucky stain off, and am about to use Behlen water based grain filler. Has any one had any experience with it. From what I have read, you are supposed to put it on with a rubber applicator and go at an angle to the grain like a squeegee. That seems simple for the flat parts but how do you work it in on the milled edges of the raised panel door stiles and rails? if anyone has used this product and has any tips I would be greatful before I get it open and all over everything. I am intending on using garnet french polish after filling the mahogany.


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#1 posted 10-03-2009 09:26 AM

Thanks, that sounds like a good idea!

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#2 posted 10-03-2009 10:19 AM

I suppose one should put painters tape over the joints that are to be glued later before applying the wood grain filler right?

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#3 posted 10-03-2009 03:32 PM

I’ve used it, and it’s a pretty forgiving product. In other words… hard to screw up. Like notottoman said, play around… you’ll see what works best for you.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#4 posted 10-03-2009 11:16 PM

Thanks everyone,
I finally relented to the 21st century and bought a digital camera. About a week ago I thought I’d try and get a cute shot of my rabbits to post as my avitar and just to have as I have no photos of them. Took 7 shots, and one of the buns was hamming it up really well which was quite unusual for them – they usually run for the shelter of their box tunnels at the sight of anything new. I hooked it up to my puter and…nothing there;-(

My 11 yo niece explains it to me and I get a few shots off, but don’t know If I can remember what I was doing wrong. I like disposable cameras! Any idiot can use one and they don’t cost an arm and a leg. I took photography in University and got great grades and many compliments from prof. and was exhibited in university library show even though I was in a beginning photog class, but that was back in the days of 35mm.

Almost all professional photography is done now on digital. Most photojounalists pick what they want for the story and delete what they don’t use to save disk space, even though there may be some merit in the photos they threw away.

I heard a story about one photojournalist who refused to go digital as he keeps all his negatives he has ever shot filed and labeled by date and event. Years after he did a story he read about some controversy which surrounded something he was present for and shooting film. Someone was on trial. It was a long time earlier, but he had a sneaking suspicion about it so he went back through his negatives of the event and printed them out. Viola – the only proof that the guy was innocent documented in color. Maybe not a perfect shot suitable for publishing in Life mag, but it got someone saved from prison who was innocent. I wonder how many deleted pictures that are deemed not good enough for publishing have been deleted instead of put on disk and put in a file for possible future documentation of an historic event we will lose to modern technology. One never has a clue that the event they are covering one day may eventually have some big effect on future history. If you think of all the possibilities of things one may have taken a photo of which later turned out to be either big news or part of history which may have completed the story after the fact, the possibilities are endless.
Think back into history before photography of events that are famous, that may have different connotation if there was photography instead of the interpretation of historians who were not there. The first thing that come to my mind is what every american school child learns: The Shot Heard Round the World. No photos, just second hand or historians interpretations of what happened. There was some photography durring the Civil War, but due to the difficulty of taking glass plate photo’s most of them are post battle, and I have seen some that were known to be staged.
Edward Curtis paid the Tlinkit People to stage his historic movie In the Land of War Canoes. (hope that’s right) Because this tradition was already fading, some of the masks and costumes had to be recreated, but at the time there were people still alive with the skills and knowledge to do so. Although the story was staged, the costumes and masks are authentic and now much of that knowledge would have been lost to the present and future generations were it not for the documentation of Curtis. One can dismiss his romanticised story, but the history of the people is still imbedded in that film and preserved for the education and entertainment of today’s audiences.
This ends todays rant on modern technology which I am not compeletely against, just cautious.

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#5 posted 10-03-2009 11:36 PM

Notottoman,
My plan was to do the grain filler first as presanding is required and easier on the pieces separately, then assemble, then sand and finish with garnet french polish. I have heard that Tung oil is a good thing to put on a french polish as it protects and doesn’t leave white ring. Not that anyone will put something on this project. but since it is a learning project first and foremost as the final piece is totally useless I may try that as I long as a can of tung oil does not cost an arm and a leg and will not go bad so I can use the remainder on another project. The guys at Woodcraft, with the exception of my instructor who by way of discouraging me to do the french polish was pushing me toward a wax finish, told me you can use polyurathane over a french polish.
That would be less expensive, but I’m not sure I would like the results after all that work on the french polish.

Despite my previous rant on digital cameras I will enlist the help of my nieces and probably nephew to get the photos and get them posted which I have never done before.
I’m still trying to come up with a “signature” for my profile which I have yet to do. Saw a couple of them already in use. With 11,000 members, don’t know if there is anything left out there that hasn’t been used.

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