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Forum topic by Tribalwind posted 09-30-2009 10:20 PM 3254 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tribalwind

69 posts in 1885 days


09-30-2009 10:20 PM

Topic tags/keywords: phenolic jig fixture router plate insert router insert plate

edit:
at present i have these in pre-cut tablesaw zero clearance inserts. 1/2”x4”x14” to accommodate MOST saws…
$10 a piece , get 4+ & i’ll pay the shipping.. compare to $70 at rockler ;)

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i have a bunch of this stuff, have made a lot of jigs etc with it through the years. but taking up too much space now. pasting what i put on craigs . happy to sell or trade, Make me an offer & make it go away !
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phenolic panels available in limited amounts ,various sizes/colors /thicknesses

This stuff is Dense,Stable and FLAT. great for woodworking jigs , fixtures , fences , work station table tops, router tables, router insert plates etc etc etc, most still has protective plastic film. extremely strong,waterproof. completely flat,maybe a good reference surface?. cut/route with standard wood working tools.but dont use your good blades it dulls fast.wear a respirator too!

these pieces are 1/2” and 3/4”thicknesses.
lengths are mostly 2’ to about 4’ with some being 5’ and almost 8’ tall.
widths are mostly 12”and under, some are between 24” and 48”
prices are negotiable, reasonable offers ~ these materials typically sell around $15 to $30 per square-foot depending on thickness and specs. i’m looking for half that or less


































-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com


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Dan Lyke

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#1 posted 09-30-2009 11:39 PM

Ahhh, there at the bottom in your signature is your location. Alas, I’m on the far side of the country, otherwise I’d take you up on this.

But I’d also add for those of us further away from you, that this stuff or similar is available at boat repair places. Recently discovered that, and have some jigs I’m going to be paying waaaay too much to build because of that…

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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Tribalwind

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#2 posted 09-30-2009 11:47 PM

Hey dan, good point i should make my location easier to see. i’ll post it up top thanks..

good tip on the sourcing too..although anytime i walk into a place or look at something with “marine” in the name of it. my wallet cowers in fear at the price tag !!!

i’ve no idea what larger pieces would cost to ship coast to coast. but my ZIP is 11510 for anyone wishing to estimate on ups,fedex,usps etc ~ i know smaller stuff can bet sent in flate-rate boxes..

-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com

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Northerner

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#3 posted 10-01-2009 09:19 PM

i seen your ad and was excited cause i wanted to get some of this to build some zero clearance inserts for my TS but i was only excited for about 17 seconds till i seen the cost! :-O
wow, being a noob and all that was sure a rough wake up call. i wanted a few pieces for a few inserts and maybe make a drill press table but now i think i will have to stick with plywood.
thanks tho

-- I love the smell of sawdust in the morning!

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WindwoodTrader

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#4 posted 10-01-2009 09:41 PM

Hey, Matthew-
I was going to buy some of that stuff but the price is scary. I’m interested in making some jigs but don’t have a lot of need for a big quantity. Let me try this: If I sent you a check for $75.00 what would I get f I wanted 1/2” material about 12” to 16” wide if YOU pay the shipping to12059?

-- John

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PurpLev

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#5 posted 10-01-2009 09:58 PM

this is fantastic material in terms of stability and smoothness, alas it’s a big PITA to work with (that dust covers everything in plain sight , and some that are hidden…), but in the end it’s worth it.

hope someone can utilize these boards, they do make great jig material.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Tribalwind

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#6 posted 10-01-2009 10:54 PM

northerner hehe, sorry to get you excited ;)
yes it is quite pricey/valuable material,i’m with ya there.
this is only a steep bargain if you Need/Want solid phenolic. really cant compare this stuff with plywood ,apples and oranges .
here are some comparisons pricewise.
phenolic tablesaw insert blanks $30
tablesaw inserts-woodcraft-$25
12x12x3/4-mcmaster-carr = $26
blank router plate-$30

btw folks, i’m NOT firm on any prices or swapping honestly. ill consider quantity discounting too.
tablesaw insert size? hm, i dunno let’s say 4 for 20+shipping.

i really dont know and cant spend a lot of time figuring out the shipping to each individual Zip. please try to do that estimating via the shippers websites using the size you’d want,

USPS flat rate i know is$10 for size:13 5/8” x 11 7/8” x 3 3/8” $13.50 for Size: 12” x 12” x 5 1/2”

John/Windwood, as an experiment i DID try estimating shipping for you.
first i did 25lbs @ 12×1/2×36 and was $18. 5-foot was the same. 6-foot went to $25…
there is definitely a way to find out maximum weight and dims without going over whatever their new pricepoint is.but i cant seem to find it..

can anyone shed light on this???

Purplev. You’re Right! i always cut it outside now,with a respirator. inside i’d use DC and resp and heck maybe drop-cloths around the cutting area LOL. also i use dedicated blades for it,not my good ones.

-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com

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Northerner

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#7 posted 10-03-2009 03:50 AM

Matthew, you got message

-- I love the smell of sawdust in the morning!

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Tribalwind

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#8 posted 02-02-2010 01:33 AM

hey folks’
for all those that have PM’d on this material. my apologies ,
i’ve been gone a long while and just catching up’ now

most has been sold. (finally have my shop space back!)
i can get more if there’s still any demand for it.
what is left right now is 3/4 stock…

the 1/2” i have cut up into “generic size” table saw inserts, 4”x14” which should cover all size needs .
shipping costs was the main concern it seemed,so let’s try this. $10 per insert,free shipping with 4 or more~
about half-price of rockler’s.
and a happy belated new year ! :-D
matthew

-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com

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Alonso

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#9 posted 02-02-2010 02:03 AM

Do you have any 3/4” by 40” long by 3” wide? I will be interested on pair of these and a few TS inserts too for a R4511

-- The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me.

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a1Jim

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#10 posted 02-02-2010 02:13 AM

Cool

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Tribalwind

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#11 posted 02-02-2010 02:35 AM

Alonso
heres what’s left in 3/4”

15×58”
13.5×61”
48.5×26”

unless the order was substantial ,i’m trying not to do custom size cutting as it got to be too involved and time-consuming. i have to clean up all that plastic dust each time, i cut the ZCI’s at 14” as i thought that ALL zci’s were 14 or less.
apparently yours are 14-11/16” ...i’d have to go get more to make yours special.

http://www.forrestsawbladesonline.com/product_637_Leecraft_ZeroClearance_Insert_1411_16L_x33_4W_x1_2T_For_Ste.html

-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com

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Kerux

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#12 posted 02-02-2010 03:22 AM

I will be interested in some. I just bought a used Jet table saw and need some inserts for it. I don’t know the thickness I need? I’ll get back with you.

-- http://caledoniachurchofchrist.yolasite.com/

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Tribalwind

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#13 posted 02-02-2010 04:55 AM

OK Kerux,
so far everyone’s has been 1/2” heres a pic of them to show color( couple people inquired)

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-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com

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bigike

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#14 posted 02-03-2010 01:32 PM

do u ship? to boston mass? would like some of that 1/2”?

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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Tribalwind

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#15 posted 02-03-2010 07:29 PM

hi bigike,
yep , i just shipped a piece to wilmington Mass yesterday.

all my current 1/2” is cut into 4×14 zci tablesaw plates.
i’ll obtain more if i see enough interest for it.
the initial reason i posted it was to just clear it out of my shop!

i might make ‘standard’ 9×12” router-table plates as well. (it’d fit in $5 flat rate envelope)
maybe a “standard” fence size too?
custom sizing a piece or two for many diff orders just wasnt worth the time/cleaning.
didnt mean to get into cutting it so much.

-- Matthew,Long island ny. www.tribalwind.com

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