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09-27-2009 05:59 AM

I have searched and searched the internet and cannot find one bad issue about Klingspor sandpaper. I assume my experience then is isolated. I bought a 26” steel city used, in new condition though. The owner had the infeed drum wrapped with new 80 grit paper made by “deer”. The outfeed drum with 120 made by “deer”. The 120 was slick and well worn because he pulled it out of the trash can and installed it just to demo the sander for me. I have 35 doors/panels that were coming up and thus my desire to get some good paper and I prefer to buy in bulk and wholesale. We do about 1 kitchen per month or so. This month we actually have 3 kitchens on schedule and about 120 total doors. A wide drum sander was a must!

Well, the klingspor sand paper finally arrived on friday. The 35 panels all glued up and just anxious to be sanded. Today on Saturday, I spent my whole day simply being tormented with this klingspor sandpaper. The sander worked awesome, sanding all my panels completely flat front and back. Simply awesome! I did however go through 1/2 of a 25 meter roll of 120 klingspore sand paper. The klingspore sand paper was cut the same width as the deer sandpaper so I could use the old sandpaper as a template. I will say the deer sandpaper was 3 times as heavy as the klingspor. The klingspor paper felt like printer paper compared to the deer sandpaper. The first 5 wraps just kept breaking after a couple of passes of the wood. Gray tape and a piece of non skid tape finally did the trick in keeping the sand paper from tearing off of the drum. But then the paper would only last long enough to sand two panels, then it was finished. The front drum with ‘deer’ paper lasted the whole 35 panels, showed minimal wear and never threatened to loosen up or rip off.

There may possibly be some user error here and I will accept fault as needed but the noticeable quality difference between the ‘deer’ sand paper and the klingspor sand paper is undeniable. The ‘deer’ paper is literally 3 times as thick as the klingspor. My problem is I have 2 25 meter rolls of Klingspor junk that is useless to me that I spent near 100.00 for. We are not filthy rich and with two small children throwing away 100.00 really hurts. This next week I am going to be looking for a local provider for the ‘deer’ sand paper. The klinspor paper I think was ps22 or something like that.

Any suggestions or experience with this problem.

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#1 posted 09-27-2009 06:11 AM

Also, I was not taking deep cuts. I was sanding 13/16th stock, I would set the sander at 7/8 and gradually raise the table till I heard the faint sound of sanding. When the drums finally were making contact I would then make multiple passes on both sides while taking 1/12 turns on the hieght adjustment wheel. I suspect I was taking much less than 1/64th of an inch per pass. Still I had these issues with klingspor. Maybe they have a stronger sand paper and will be nice enough to exchange out my paper for real sand paper. Otherwise it is difficult for me to believe they are even able to stay in business providing such inferior quality. If my kitchens lacked quality like that sand paper did we would simply starve!

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#2 posted 09-27-2009 06:32 AM

I have a ShopFox dual headed drum sander and I have never used the Klingspor paper. I have stuck with the supply from Grizzly. I have not heard any final results of anybody else using Klingspor for the drum sanders.

If it is noticeably thinner, then that says a lot about the quality of it right there.

My sandpaper from Grizzly Tools lasts a long time.

I run 100 and 150.

Sorry to hear your job went so rough. I have had those before.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#3 posted 09-27-2009 07:09 AM

Sorry guys if I seem to be ranting. I absolutely love woodworking and building kitchens. It is nice to be part of a community who loves doing the same think I love. Woodworking and shop time is my passion. I am just coming off of a frustrating day with that sand paper. This was my first experience with a drum sander. I have always used a 3” by 18” makita and 3” by 21” porter cable and 5” ROS ridgid and some dewalt 1/4” sheet sanders for all my doors in the past.

I am thinking about the sandpaper issue some as I wind down. I just realized the ‘deer’ belt is cloth backed and thus will not tear easily at all. The klinspor is paper backed and I tear it easily with 4 fingers. This is the reason for my problems but I relied on a klingspor rep that should have known his product “abrasives”. I told him my intended us and he told me his recommedation. Anyway, thanks for any input.

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#4 posted 11-13-2009 06:56 AM

Jerry,

I apologize for your bad experience with Klingspor product. I currently am the Southern Wisconsin representative. Do you know what material you ordered from Klingspor? Also if you still have the Deer, look on the back of the roll & there should be a part number (probably starts with JA### – we can cross ref p/n). If your rolls are breaking, your best bet, especially under 120 grit should be cloth. Call Klingspor customer service – 800-645-5555 Ext #2 or Tech Ext #6, they should will be willing to help you sample the correct product, ask them about our CS311 material. If you do use paper in the future, PS29 material.

Hope this helps,

Dan Leberman
DLeberman@Klingspor.com

-- Klingspor Abrasives

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#5 posted 11-13-2009 07:33 AM

Looks like A+ for customer service.

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