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Forum topic by Kindlingmaker posted 09-22-2009 10:10 PM 1239 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Kindlingmaker

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09-22-2009 10:10 PM

Topic tags/keywords: resource spray gun finishing refurbishing

I went to Lowes here in California yesterday and found out that they are not going to carry any solvent based finishes in the future and much of what they have they are selling at reduced prices to get rid of them. This puts a bit of a hurt on my budget in that I will have to order by mail/internet and have finishes delivered. I have always wanted to try the better products but they had to be ordered, now I don’t have much choice… I will check at Home Depot in the next couple of days and see if they are doing the same thing.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#1 posted 09-22-2009 10:22 PM

It might be a local fire code directive ???

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 09-22-2009 11:15 PM

California has laws to limit the content of VOC’s (Volatile Organic Compound) in consumer products.
Technically, you can’t even import the good stuff from out-of-state.

-- 温故知新

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teenagewoodworker

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#3 posted 09-22-2009 11:49 PM

yep… if you want good stuff anyway a big box store is that absolute last place you should go… i havent got finishes from a big box store in forever. not worth it

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bobthebuilder647

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#4 posted 09-23-2009 12:09 AM

Both HD and Lowes in north east Ohio started that a few months ago.

-- Rick, Pa. Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.

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dennis mitchell

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#5 posted 09-23-2009 12:58 AM

You should have a local paint store that caters to professionals. The price/quality is usually better too.

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DaneJ

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#6 posted 09-23-2009 03:30 AM

HD and Lowes in the Greater Cleveland still carry lacquer, shellac and many oil based finishes, but they do not carry gallons of some solvents.

-- Dane, Fairview Pk, OH. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away... Tom Waits

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blackcherry

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#7 posted 09-23-2009 04:39 AM

Illinois has the same laws just found out this morning from a painting contractor. The fine is heft if they caught you bring in state from IN. or Wisconsin…

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stadler

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#8 posted 09-23-2009 07:14 PM

I’ve been using Sherwin-Williams Low VOC Lacquer. It is a nitrocellulose and dries fast and hard. Can you get it in California?

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eddy

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#9 posted 09-24-2009 02:44 PM

thanks for the post i will have to go over there later today and see what’s on sale
i have been getting my finishes lately at my wood supplier or rockler like said above better quality

-- self proclaimed copycat

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Douglas Bordner

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#10 posted 09-24-2009 03:33 PM

I have had very satisfactory results with waterborne finishes from Target coatings. They are a bit more expensive, but I feel better that I’m not creating a fuel-air bomb in the garage and to be frank, I don’t have the right safety equipment (spark-proof exhaust fan) to use Nitrocellulose in the home.

And there is always Zinsser Sealcoat dewaxed shellac as a fallback.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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EEngineer

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#11 posted 09-25-2009 04:29 AM

“They are a bit more expensive, but I feel better that I’m not creating a fuel-air bomb in the garage…”

Now that’s funny! How many years were these things used without everyone blowing themselves up! Look, plead the environment (which is really what is driving the elimination of VOC’s), hug a tree but keep the safety issue out of this! Most accidents with solvent based finishes come from improper storage, not usage. I defy you to use any of the water-based polyurethanes without adequate ventilation. It may not explode, but it will suffocate you.

Truth is, with very few exceptions, the water-based stuff is not quite as good as the cheapest solvent-based equivalent. However well-intentioned, the current push to eliminate solvent based finishes is leading to the same lack of quality that everything in US society suffers from.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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