Rust Penetrant

Actually, WD-40 was invented to displace water (WD- water displacement).

Folks have been using it for all sorts of things with some success. It is not a very good penetrating fluid as you discovered. I have had some success with automative brake fluid. I’ll have to try the Ship-to-shore stuff. It sounds great.

I checked out the website but couldn’t really tell if they ship to the US. I didn’t see any price listing either, but it looks like you have to buy it in bulk, is that correct?

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

I use WD40 only as a protecterant….for a penetrant I typically use Liquid Wrench. I have not seen the product you mention…but sounds like a winner. If I see it around, I will certainly give it a try.

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I use this stuff. It’s awesome, works better than anything else I’ve tried.
http://www.kanolabs.com/google/

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I dont think WD40 is meant to clean rust… as mentioned above it’s originally was developed to displace water. it also works well as a light lubricant.

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Thanks for the tip. I will have to look into this, if they ship to the US.

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Hairy….I beleive that what your using is good too because it is industrial.
WD40 looking a the can…”stops squeaks,protects metal,loosens rusted parts,frees sticky mechanisms”,

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LA-CO Rust Buster is good too but no way as good as ship-2-shore.

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For your table saw and jointer tops etc.if you get rust spots a good product is RUFF from Jet-Lube

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Hairy , thanks for the link to KanoLabs. I’ve used their product before with great results and they have an online offer of two 13oz. cans for $12.00 that I just took advantage of.My first can was a free offer from them that stated that if their product failed in any way to meet your needs , it is free of charge and included free shipping as well : )

Ship2Shore appears to be a Canadian product and I didn’t see any USA outlets at their site : (
http://www.ship-2-shore.com/msds-plid.htm#COMPOSITION

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WD-40 is worthless as a rust preventative. Put a freshly machined piece of steel out with it on and you’ll have a fine coat of rust by the next morning.

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Dusty56 you can buy Canadian I buy US without problems.
Customs are getting better these days.

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I’ve always used kano kroil and it works the best out of the few i’ve tried for freeing rusted bolts.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

+1 for KROIL .. .. it’s the best I’ve used thus far .. .. ..

8oz. kano kroil $7.45
6oz. ship-2-shore $15.95
One price is better, the products we will have to test them?
At $7.45 I will try it for sure.

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I use LPS rust preventer:
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1657970&PMT4NO=71115152

-- Dane, Fairview Pk, OH. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away...

WD-40 works great for removing gummy sticker residue. That’s about it. For penetrating oils I use an old oil can clicky-bottomed thing that I inherited from my Grampa, marked as “PENETRATE”. No idea what is in it, heh.

-- Ooo, er.

You describe using it to penetrate threads and loosen an nut. Go to any automotive store and buy a can of penetrating oil. Every mechanic has a case of the stuff. There are many brands, an old one is called Gunk. They all work the same. Spray on and wait awhile. The penetrating oil travels along the threads and lubricates them without moving the part. As far as preventing rust…. Wax; preferably paste or butchers but any will do.

WD-40… I use it for.. ah.. not much. It really doesn’t have many good uses. But it’s funny that we all have a can and use it incorrectly for lots of things.

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It’s good for locks outdoors, they won’t freeze closed in the winter. ;-))

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Funniest use found online for WD-40 today was “It’s a great laxative!”
Hello GMan , I’ve purchased a few things online from Canada , but didn’t see any pricing listed for your product.
Check out the “Google Sale” price for two large spray cans of the Kano Kroil product that “hairy” posted earlier.
My friend ran out of oil in their riding lawnmower and seized the engine. Research showed them that a replacement engine would cost almost as much as a whole new mower , so they asked me to help them. I took out the spark plug and sprayed a good amount of KROIL into the cylinder and let it set overnight . The next day I went back and removed the shroud from the flywheel and was able to turn the engine over by hand after a brief struggle : ) I continued to turn it by hand until it was free enough to turn using the starter motor after filling the crankcase with oil. Reassembled , added gasoline and off she went. They’re still using it today : )

-- You know you're getting old when you know the difference between you're (you are) and your (belonging to you) AND how to use them in a sentence .

I have been using Kroil. The stuff is awesome. It penetrates and even creeps upwards and loosens the most stubborn rust without a long wait.

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Try ‘Liquid Film’, it’s a rust preventer, inhibiter and remover, it’s a Lanolin based product and very affective. I sprayed the underneath of my ‘89 GMC p/u 3 yrs ago and it’s still clear underneath. I agree it’s not a penetrant, but an ounce of prevention is better than a half hour of frustration and inventing new swear words. Scribe.

-- Jeff, British Columbia Canada

It is very good to start a topic it gets people going and that is where you get information and ideas, I have learned a lot about penetrant.

This here is also a learning place.
Thanks for all comments.

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Grampa always said , “The key to proper penetration lies heavily upon proper lubrication”

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I have two brake drums that so far have not moved. Never heard of the products you guys have used but I now have some on order. If it works it will be the best money I have spent in a long time.

Thanks Guys

CraftsmanOntheLake, funny you should mention wax. If the bolt/nut is in the right orientation, you can melt paraffin wax into the joint and the wax will wick into the threads and act as a penetrant. Works even better if you can heat the bolt/nut and melt it right in as you’re heating it.

Jim

Try http://www.ship-2-shore.com/products.htm
They will ship to the US.

-- Mike The Termite ~~~~~ Working safely may get old, but so do those who practice it.

Hey GMman

WD40 looking a the can…”stops squeaks,protects metal,loosens rusted parts,frees sticky mechanisms”,

I wonder if they do this as a tonic, sounds like I need some.

-- "Even small steps makes a distance." (Shawn Phillips, musician)

Yeah, but there are so many things that to that stuff a lot better than WD-40 :-))

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Haven’t use Ship -2- Shore but I have used Kroil when I was in Paper industry it was used by maintenance and contractors. If it didn’t come apart it was going to.

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Big fan of PB Blaster

-- -- Neil

I emailed the company regarding the Ship-2-Shore and here is their response:

“Jim

Unfortunatly we do not have a US distributor at this time.

Thank you for telling me where you heard of Ship-2-Shore it’s good
to know the word is getting out.

1 case of 12×180 Ship-2-Shore PLID @ $155.40 usd. + freght, customs etc.

If you are not needing a full case, buy it anyway,
let your friends try it they maybe impressed as well
and buy some from you.

Terry Laing
Owner
Liquid Corrosion Control Inc.
Box 48205, Victoria, B.C.
Canada, V8Z 7H6”

I certainly can’t afford to buy a case but if someone else should do so, let me know and I might be able to buy a can.

JimC

I was told WD-40 was a good fish attractant to spray on lures. Supposedly, it has fish oil in it. Doesn’t say it does on the can.

Anybody tried that?

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”I emailed the company regarding the Ship-2-Shore and here is their response:

JimC”

Jim:

”1 case of 12×180 Ship-2-Shore PLID @ $155.40 usd. + freght, customs etc.”

What is PLID?
Answer: PLID stands for Penetrant, Lubricant, Inhibitor, Dielectric.

What is “x180”? ... $12.95 per (180) + frt + customs, etc.
Answer: 180 g Aerosol spray can.
Wonder what Frt & Customs would be…

Looks interesting… depending what the answers are…

Wonder what the price of PLID-Bulk is… may be a better buy per “g” but would have to be broken down into cans, for hand spray dispensers.

Sounds like pretty good stuff!

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