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RobinDobbie

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06-21-2015 07:24 PM

When you see a great item on Craigslist or Kijiji, or whatever’s popular in the part of the world you’re living, the first thing you should ever do is an image search for the image used in the ad. If you have chrome as your browser, it’s easy. On a PC, you just right-click the image and click “Search Google for this image”. If you’re on a phone, tap-and-hold the image, then when the menu appears, select “Search Google for this image”. If you’re using other browsers, just save the image, then upload on the google image search page.

I say this not because I believe everyone who uses a different image than their item must be selling junk, but because you never know. Twice I’ve browsed cragslist and found very familiar-looking images, images I’ve taken myself. First I laughed out loud, then I got pissed. Not just because someone stole my image, but because they were using it to lie to everyone about what they had. Maybe what they’re selling is in even better condition than the item, but you never know. If you find the exact image on the internet, then they’ve already lied to you once. Be really careful if you decide to proceed.


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#1 posted 06-21-2015 07:47 PM

Really? I’ve bought and sold a ton of stuff on CL and never encountered a fake picture, except maybe for a stock photo when one of the real item wasn’t available. And since I get to see the thing in person before handing over the cash, the photo on the ad doesn’t really matter at that point. I guess maybe it is more prevalent for certain items than it is for others; what kind of stuff are you seeing this on?

Cheers,
Brad

PS: Another good reverse image search site is http://www.tineye.com/

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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RobinDobbie

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#2 posted 06-21-2015 07:48 PM

Case in point, and the reason I posted this today:

Sorry for the Craigslist typo.

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ChuckV

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#3 posted 06-21-2015 08:33 PM

Picture in ad:

Actual item:

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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Underdog

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#4 posted 06-22-2015 05:49 PM

In my experience, the pictures are really crappy – turned sideways, dark, dirty, cluttered, and the actual tool looks like it’s lain out in the weather for ten years….

-- "woodworker with an asterisk"

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RobinDobbie

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#5 posted 06-22-2015 06:29 PM

Yeah, that’s acceptable, though. At least they’re not tempting people to drive potentially great distances based on a picture that indicated a near-perfect item. I call that fraud, but good luck getting anyone to enforce it. If someone steals 50 cents from walmart twice, they go to jail. If someone lures various people to drive 80+ miles for a lie, there’s no recourse.

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#6 posted 06-22-2015 06:56 PM

Yeah, that s acceptable, though. At least they re not tempting people to drive potentially great distances based on a picture that indicated a near-perfect item. I call that fraud, but good luck getting anyone to enforce it.
-RobinDobbie

Like I said, I’ve never had it happen to me, and usually before I hop in the truck to drive several hours, I’ve had the seller send me additional pictures to see if it’s worth the trip. But… if it did happen, I’d use it to my advantage. It’s a great negotiation point in getting the price reduced significantly. I guess it depends on what your expectations are – I personally consider any machine I’m looking at buying as something that will need to be completely taken apart, de-rusted, all consumables and missing parts replaced and then polished and painted before going back together – and I’m willing to walk away from the deal if it doesn’t look like it’s worth my time. Heck, even if it IS in pristine condition, it still gets the treatment (except possibly for the painting) as you never know what kind of abuse a used machine has seen over it’s lifetime. If a seller posted a picture of a pristine machine and it turns out to be a well abused rusty hunk of metal, my offer drops to scrap metal prices (or less), with a sternly worded explanation of why. If they don’t accept the offer, I wish them luck and drive away. The dog (my travel companion) doesn’t care one way or the other – he just loves getting out and seeing the world :)

Cheers,
Brad

PS: I often see ‘followup’ craigslist ads where someone complains that an item is being misrepresented, so that is sort of an enforcement option, although perhaps not as strong as you apparently would like :)

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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RobinDobbie

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#7 posted 06-22-2015 07:31 PM


Like I said, I ve never had it happen to me…

I’ve never been mugged, had to perform CPR, lost fingers on power tools(yet), or been on fire. But these are things that happen to people. I didn’t start this post to get into an debate with you about the likelihood of someone attempting to lure people to their crap item with a picture they stole. It happened to me yesterday, and it takes a second to do an image search. If you’re ok with driving 80 miles for a lie, then I guess that’s your deal. I just don’t think most people feel that way. I’d rather be in the shop than in the truck stuck in weekend traffic because someone’s a liar.

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 06-22-2015 07:57 PM

Wow.. where did that come from?!? Was just saying (and apparently you missed) that IF it did happen, you can use it to your advantage. And it’s not just with a ripped off picture… many times I’ve seen people post pictures of something that was taken years before and doesn’t look anything like it does now. Moral of the story is even if you try to prevent it, it can still happen, so you might as well take advantage of it rather than getting pissed off. Life is too short. JMHO.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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RobinDobbie

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#9 posted 06-22-2015 08:32 PM



Wow.. where did that come from?!?

Not sure what warrants multiple question marks! lol I was just saying that I didn’t start the post to debate it. It was just a “quick suggestion.” Not trying to be rude or anything, you can feel free to say anything you want. But you did quote my reply(that was to someone else) and word the post as if it was toward me and not just general statements, so I figured I’d reply, again. I don’t know what you expected?

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#10 posted 06-24-2015 03:05 PM

At least they’re not tempting people to drive potentially great distances based on a picture that indicated a near-perfect item.

This is true. My example is just the exact opposite. It’s more like “I don’t care that I took a crappy photo of a crappy old item, I still want beer money for it.”

But yeah, I’m not gonna go far unless I know for a fact that something is worth the drive. I hate it when people knowingly misrepresent stuff.

-- "woodworker with an asterisk"

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Newbiewoodworker43

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#11 posted 06-24-2015 03:51 PM

It really stinks that people would willingly and knowingly do this. I would hate to go somewhere and find that the item was misrepresented. I have never had this happen to me but it is a good trick to know how to check the image.
Thanks

-- ---Howard, Amesbury MA

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nkawtg

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#12 posted 06-24-2015 04:10 PM

This is a Public Service Announcement, take it for what it is.
Good Advice.

I’ve seen deceptive pictures on CL before.

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RobinDobbie

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#13 posted 06-24-2015 04:26 PM

This is true. My example is just the exact opposite. It s more like “I don t care that I took a crappy photo of a crappy old item, I still want beer money for it.”

But yeah, I m not gonna go far unless I know for a fact that something is worth the drive. I hate it when people knowingly misrepresent stuff.

- Underdog

The opposite would be a situation where they used a picture that they took of an item that wasn’t theirs, but was in shambles. When you arrive, what they actually have is in MINT condition! lol Far less likely, I know. But I’ll bet it’s happened at least once and I wish I was there to see the face of the buyer!

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JeffP

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#14 posted 06-24-2015 11:20 PM

Perhaps it goes without saying, but I have recently developed the habit of routinely “shopping” for the item on amazon and/or home depot/lowes.com. It turns out two things happen when you get older, and they SEEM contradictory at first.

1) everything seems way too expensive because you can remember back when a _ used to go for just .
2) your memory goes bad for how much things cost nowadays.

Several times I have seen something I might need soon to fix up my house on CL. Looked at the CL ad, thought about how much was there and how much I need and thought…”I better buy that, since I might actually get around to that project some time in the next few years.” (or even imagine it would be this weekend)

Only to find out that I can get a brand new one at HF/HD/Lowes/Amazon-prime for almost the same price (or even better).

Long story short…you don’t know jack about what stuff costs. Check it out first.

-- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Unfortunately, it was in my shop, so I will probably never find it again.

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fiddlebanshee

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#15 posted 07-28-2015 05:40 PM

I took your advice and searched for a picture of the Delta Mortiser that I wanted to purchase. It was unique but Google Chrome suggested similar pictures …. all of espresso machines! Great to know that I don’t need the mortiser, I already have an espresso machine. lol

-- As if I needed another hobby!

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