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Forum topic by Gixxerjoe04 posted 06-17-2015 02:52 PM 873 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Gixxerjoe04

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06-17-2015 02:52 PM

So I’m in need of a new jointer, my little Porter cable bench top just isn’t cutting it, no pun intended. The pc jointer is a decent little jointer but I hate not being able to flatten longer boards because of how small it is. Been looking at the many different grizzly jointers and can’t decide. I use a decent amount of figures wood so wouldn’t mind getting the spiral head since I get tear out quite a bit, of course without a spiral head planer then it won’t matter. Is there any real advantage for the $100 extra for the parallel beds? Also can’t decide between 6 or 8 inch. So many dang options and prices, can’t figure it out. Id like to buy used but there aren’t many good ones posted on Craigslist. Most that are posted are old pieces of crap, bench tops or 15 year old ones with a new price.


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jmartel

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#1 posted 06-17-2015 02:54 PM

If you’re considering an 8”, buy an 8”. You don’t see people selling 8” jointers to get a 6” because they don’t use the capacity, but you definitely see people selling a 6” to get an 8”.

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Gixxerjoe04

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#2 posted 06-17-2015 03:03 PM

Yea, thought about getting the 8” without spiral head or parallel beds since its only like $850 before shipping. Then I can add the spiral head later on if I want. The tear out from it probably isn’t as bad as my little pc.

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#3 posted 06-17-2015 03:16 PM

I have the G0490X and love it after calibrating it and tightening all the bolts and nuts down it does everything I ask of it perfectly and the spiral cutterhead is worth the extra cuts down on sanding and no blade setting or sharpening required. The biggest PITA about grizzly is the shipping grease that comes on everything other then that I love all my Grizzly stuff.

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#4 posted 06-17-2015 03:18 PM

I see no reason to spend extra on the parallelogram style (if that’s what you mean by “parallel beds). I believe this has come up before and I’m in a decided minority, but in my case I think I’ve adjusted my depth of cut maybe 9-10 times over the 14 years or so I’ve had my Jet 8”. The advantages of the parallelogram is ease of adjustment, and the gap around the cutterhead is consistent; neither (IMHO, again) justifies spending more…if the cost is the same then I’d consider it. The spiral head, OTOH, is well worth it, especially for figured wood.

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Gixxerjoe04

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#5 posted 06-17-2015 03:31 PM

The only deal on Craigslist I’ve found the past couple months was the G0490, was gonna buy it and get the spiral head, of course it sold by the time I called.

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#6 posted 06-17-2015 03:43 PM

I have the 8” model you have to constantly check the fence for square to bed it loses its settings quite frequently. Other than that its a great machine. I upgraded to a helical head so consider that when purchasing one new. It is worth the extra cost and will pay for itself in a few years of new/re sharpened blades.

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#7 posted 06-17-2015 03:52 PM



I have the 8” model you have to constantly check the fence for square to bed it loses its settings quite frequently. Other than that its a great machine. I upgraded to a helical head so consider that when purchasing one new. It is worth the extra cost and will pay for itself in a few years of new/re sharpened blades.

- Robert Engel

I have the same issue with mine and can’t figure out why it does this. Not a major issue, but still wish it didn’t get out of alignment.

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#8 posted 06-17-2015 04:32 PM

I also have the 0490x with spiral head. All my machines have had byrd type heads since 2004 I would never go back to knives for any reason. Rob a bank if you have to but go byrd or dont go – wait until you can afford the spiral. Maybe you just use a lot of straight grained lumber so knives are passable but I use mainly burl and figured woods so shelix head is mandatory for me.

I do not have the fence alignment issues others have mentioned but I make certain my backing nuts are cinched down tight as possible.

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Fred Hargis

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#9 posted 06-17-2015 04:32 PM

You guys with the fence problem might try this: I had that problem with my Jet, but it occurred everytime I moved the fence. I found that when we moved I had not re-installed the supporting bracket to be perfectly co-planer with the tables. I re set it and solved my problems. Anyway, may be something to check.

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#10 posted 06-17-2015 04:54 PM

As others have said, consider the 8 inch. Years ago I purchased a 6 inch Delta with the thought that I would rarely need anything wider. I plan to upgrade to a 10 inch Grizzly, and I wonder if I should save and get a 12 inch. Currently, I can’t see needing anything wider than 10 inch but past experience says get something bigger.

I would defiantly recommend the spiral cutter head. There seems to be two versions the Byrd and another. I have seen reviews that place the Byrd version slightly better in highly figured woods. I think that Grizzly does not use the Byrd version.

I had a problem with my non-parallelogram beds not being parallel. It was a mess to shim. I plan on the next jointer to be parallelogram to eliminate that problem.

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#11 posted 06-17-2015 04:55 PM

I have a 12” Grizzly jointer and it has performed very well, the spiral head has eliminated 100% of the tear out even on highly figured woods.If your budget allows and you”re using a lot of figured wood don’t wait buy a spiral model to start.

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#12 posted 06-17-2015 05:42 PM

Just to throw a monkey wrench in your decision, you may want to get the G0490 8” with straight knives and buy the shelix cutterhead separately, it will only cost you $15 more than the G0490X and you’ll have both heads. You can wear down the straight head and swap it out later on. One thing I noticed, the 12” model has 60 cutterheads on the grizzly and 96 on the shelix (both cutterheads have 40 for the 8” model). However, the replacement cutterheads are $3 ea for the shelix and $6 ea for the grizzly.
Also, they only sell the grizzly cutterhead for the G0656.

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#13 posted 06-18-2015 01:26 AM

Thanks for all the info, I wish they had a store closer to me so I wouldn’t have to pay shipping, 500 miles with a truck that gets 12mpg isn’t worth it unfortunately haha. I’ve tried getting a catalog or on their email list hoping maybe to get a 10% off coupon to save some money, or do they just give those to past customers?

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#14 posted 06-18-2015 01:40 AM

A shop fox W1741 was just posted 3 hours away for $700, looks like the G0490 of grizzly. Was posted 4 hours ago, would call now but since it’s late don’t want to be rude. Of course I leave for vacation on Friday.

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#15 posted 07-08-2015 07:16 PM

Went on vacation and there were multiple good looking jointers posted locally of course. Just saw a G0490 posted for $800 but has the byrd head on it, problem is it’s 4.5 hours away.

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