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Forum topic by Oosik posted 06-10-2015 08:25 PM 697 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Oosik

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06-10-2015 08:25 PM

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/tls/5048329339.html

So, what is a reasonable price for a New/Used Grizzly Cyclone? When one can have it delivered with warranty (non-transferable I believe) for $1,074, noise reducer $45, and stand $225.

Or is it not worth dealing with someone that thinks they can rehash $1,100 of a $1350 expense including someone dismantling, picking up, and re-mantling?


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 06-11-2015 12:10 PM

I would pass on it myself. He made a mistake (apparently) and hopes to get out of it with minimal loss. That aside, 1.5 HP on a cyclone could be a fairly iffy thing. Cyclones have so much drag on the system, I can’t imagine that moving enough air (for dust collection) to be effective.

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#2 posted 06-11-2015 12:12 PM

I agree with Fred. If you want this one I would offer around $500 for it.

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#3 posted 06-11-2015 12:27 PM

Just my opinion, but I would think 1.5hp cyclone is semi-worthless. It is going to move 400cfm+/- at your tool by the time you factor in the resistance of a 45° or two and ductwork/flexible hose. I have the 3hp big brother model of the one you are looking at, and I would consider it bare minimum. I wish I had 5hp ever since I acquired my 37×2 drum sander. My point being, the 1.5hp cyclone needs more depreciation associated with it than the 5hp one in similar condition. The 3-5hp is much more desirable. Check the cyclone design is the same as well. It looks like it is several inches shorter than the other models, but that might be due to motor height etc.

I purchased my 3hp grizzly cyclone back in oct of 2014 for $700. The cyclone body was mounted with the motor housing on it. The bin wasn’t assembled, and the machine had never been used. The man had asthma or some respiratory related condition and decided woodworking wasn’t for him. Oh, and he delivered it and I bought a bunch of spiral duct off him for pennies. I consider my deal in the “as good as you are going to get” category. In your case, I wouldn’t be interested in this machine unless it was atleast 50% off. Otherwise, you are better off spending another $500 for a lot more air with the 3hp model. After spending hours and hours mounting my collector and running ductwork, swapping DC’s annually or biannually for the model you should have purchased in the first place would be a gigantic PITA. This isn’t like a jointer or table saw where you can pack it up pretty easily and wheel it out of the shop. These things are fixed in place and can only be moved by completely disassembling the main parts. This is coming from a guy that has upgraded and traded 3 table saws in the last 12-14 months. dewalt benchtop for delta contractor for unisaw. I would be out of my mind to attempt that with the cyclone.

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#4 posted 06-11-2015 12:36 PM

pwk5017,

What size breaker and wiring did you need to install for the 3hp cyclone? Big reason I keep looking at the 1.5-2hp models is I can use the existing 20amp 220v outlets and breakers I currently have available.

From what I can see on the manuals going up to the 3-5hp range requires 30-50amp breakers and bigger wire, additional expense.

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#5 posted 06-11-2015 01:56 PM

2hp and below 20A @ 240v

3hp 30A @ 240V #10s

5hp 40A @ 240V #8s with a #10ground

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AZWoody

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#6 posted 06-11-2015 02:56 PM

a 1.5 cyclone like that would only really be effective if you were able to roll it around and have it right at the machine as you work.
The way this set up though, you would have to make it mobile which probably shouldn’t be too difficult.

I’m with the others though, upgrade to at least a 3hp if you can afford it.

If you go with the Grizzly machines, I have seen them in person. They are MASSIVE. They take up a lot of floorspace and might just barely fit under an 8’ ceiling but even then I’m not sure.
I am a fan of Grizzly machines but their dust collectors are one thing I think they are a bit overpriced on and better options can be found at a better savings.

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#7 posted 06-11-2015 04:01 PM

I have noticed once you get into the 3-5HP range, oneida and clearvue become a lot more competive price wise.

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#8 posted 06-11-2015 04:14 PM



I have noticed once you get into the 3-5HP range, oneida and clearvue become a lot more competive price wise.

- Oosik

Yes, after researching and pricing all the brands of dust collectors, I ended up going with the clearvue.

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pwk5017

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#9 posted 06-11-2015 06:35 PM

yes to all the above. 30a 220v line for the 3hp cyclone. It will trip a 20a breaker every single time…I tried at first. I could agree with everyone on the clearvue vs Oneida vs grizzly when you are in that range. Grizzly and PSI will be within a few hundred bucks of the other two manufacturers and at that point its most likely worth the extra money for the better motor and impeller. Assuming they are in fact better. Not sure on the impeller differences, but the baldor and leeson motors are more efficient than the grizzly generic motor. How many years will I get out of my motor? I have no idea, but those are things I would consider if buying new. My machine has been great, and it was really affordable for me.

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#10 posted 06-12-2015 12:53 PM

Think the 1.5HP larger cyclone could be made portable?

If I could pick it up for $500 be a good solution until I can get a 3-5HP machine.

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#11 posted 06-12-2015 01:08 PM

If by portable, you mean on casters it can be done. I know a guy who put his Oneida SDG on wheels using unistrut for a frame and then casters under the 4 legs. In his case it was only to make servicing the DC possible, since it was wheeled back into a cubby hole in his shop. Doing this might make it taller, and it wouldn’t really be very convenient. I also think it would be quite top heavy ( a lot of the weight is in the blower/motor) which would be it’s own problem.

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#12 posted 06-14-2015 02:13 PM

I just checked and a new 3.5 tempest is only 1495. Btw I own a good VIP of griz and that’s not a good deal at all

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