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06-09-2015 08:59 PM

Topic tags/keywords: oak quarter sawn oak dye pigment stain finish

Hello! I am trying to come up with a finishing schedule for a small white QS oak table. I want to minimize the early-late wood and the pore contrast, and want the finish to be dark brown with strong warm orange and red overtones—something like the furniture on the image below.

I want to experiment a little with different dyes and stains by following the common procedure:

(a) apply dye or mixture of dyes as base;
(b) seal with shellac;
(c) fill pores if neccesary;
(d) glaze with stain;
(e) seal with shellac;
(d) apply topcoat.

I want to try a mixture of yellow/red/orange dyes on raw sanded wood (like TransTInt Amber, Golden Brown, Reddish Brown, Dark Vintage Maple, Bright Red, Red Mahogany) followed by a darker brown stain glaze. Not sure how to start though without buying a truck load of dyes and stains.

Does anyone have experience getting finished oak color like the ones on the photo? Has anyone tried the Brown Reddish dye and Dark Walnut pigment stain combination from Fine Woodworking No. 157 (or Honey Amber TransTint – Early American Minwax)? Any suggestion or reference would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes, h.

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#1 posted 06-09-2015 10:39 PM

I would call Jeff Jewitt or post the question on his site, homesteadfinishingproducts.com.

-- Art

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#2 posted 06-09-2015 11:49 PM

Thank you, Art! Have posted my question at Jeff’s site. Actually, the article from FW No.157 is by Jeff on Arts & Crafts finish.

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#3 posted 06-10-2015 02:39 AM

Here is the reddish-brown finish created by groovyman6 using TransTint Brown Mahogany. Not sure if it was diluted in water or alcohol though. The ray flecks are highlighted and the pores were sealed with Minwax Tung Oil. Will have to try TransTint Reddish Brown too to see how it changes the colors.

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#4 posted 06-10-2015 10:54 PM

No, I didn’t post it for you because you have the pix of the color you are trying to attain.

-- Art

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#5 posted 06-12-2015 03:01 PM

I used a recipe of General Finishes 7 parts Orange Dye to 4 parts mediium Brown I saw in a magazine and got a wonderful dark redish brown on an oak bookcase I did. Then sprayed it with lacquer rubbed it down with 0000 steel wook and aplied past wax to it. I love the look and will use it on more projects. Sorry, I don’t have any pictures, but it may be a good place to start and experiment from there. It couldn’t have been any easier.

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#6 posted 06-12-2015 07:17 PM


I used a recipe of General Finishes 7 parts Orange Dye to 4 parts mediium Brown I saw in a magazine and got a wonderful dark redish brown on an oak bookcase I did.

- mdennisusa1

Yes, Orange and Medium Brown 7 to 4 sounds dark reddish brown! Thanks, will try mixing orange and brown dyes if my attempts at getting the groovyman6’s finish don’t give me the warm reddish tones.

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#7 posted 06-12-2015 08:08 PM

For reference, this is TT brown mahogany dye mixed 1 quart water : 1 oz dye. Then stained with Varathane dark walnut, and a lacquer topcoat. It is not strongly red, but it does have a warm red undertone.

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#8 posted 06-12-2015 09:42 PM


For reference, this is TT brown mahogany dye mixed 1 quart water : 1 oz dye. Then stained with Varathane dark walnut, and a lacquer topcoat. It is not strongly red, but it does have a warm red undertone.

- pintodeluxe

Thank you Pintodeluxe! The photo is helpful. Nice cabinet! Yes, according to the groovyman6’s photos, TT Brown Mahogany with Minwax Mahogany Gel give quite warm red-orange undertone. However, not sure how much of the color comes from the camera software. Maybe a coat of garnet shellac will help to get the tones I want. Or maybe the top coat, GF Arm‑R‑Seal, has enough color in it to give the undertones.

-- "If you're not counting the ripples when throwing pebbles in the water, you're wasting your time."

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