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45acpbuilder

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1811 days ago

I was trimming some 1/4 thick hard maple, taking 1 1/2 inches off a 2-inch wide piece on my 3-hp TS. The blade hooked the waste piece and shot it across the table. It hit me so hard it tore a hole in my blue jeans and drew blood! I was amazed at how much damage that tiny little piece did. Now I am the proud owner of a leather apron. I can’t imagine how deep a hefty piece would have gone.

-- M1911BLDR


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Walnut_Weasel

360 posts in 1855 days


#1 posted 1811 days ago

I was never really that concerned with a tablesaw until I actually saw video of just how fast a piece of kickback really moves! I have a heavy denim apron. Perhaps I should change the lower pocket (tablesaw height) out for a leather pocket!

-- James - www.walnutweasel.wordpress.com

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jussdandy

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#2 posted 1811 days ago

yuppers, ive seen that a lot of times, I always TRY to stand to one side so it just blows by me, But what scared the bejeebers out of me, was a thickness planner. the wood had a bow in it. I thought it might not go through because of it loosing its grip inside the bow, wow was it a missle when it got loose, a LOT more respect now. I wont do that again.lol, I was standing off to the side as is my habit.

-- Randy I have the right to remain silent, just not the ability ; )

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CharlieM1958

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#3 posted 1811 days ago

I learned my lesson early on when I had a similar thing happen. Luckily, I was standing to the side. The piece that kicked back ended up lodged in the sheetrock wall about 15-20 ft. behind the saw!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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papadan

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#4 posted 1811 days ago

My turn hit me in the belly tearing my shirt and giving me a very large bruise. Bounced off my belly and through the curtain and window on the door. I don’t stand there anymore. LOL

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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djwong

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#5 posted 1811 days ago

When these kickback accidents occurred, where any of you using a blade guard, splitter, or riving knife? Any kind of safety devices?

-- David W. Cupertino, CA

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a1Jim

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#6 posted 1811 days ago

Many times this type of kick back occurs when cutting a thin piece between the fence and the blade that’s why it’s best to have the thin part of your cut as the fall off.

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CharlieM1958

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#7 posted 1811 days ago

In my case it was bad technique. I made a newbie mistake by trying to rip a bit off a very short piece, so, in effect, it was almost like a crosscut with the workpiece trapped between the blade and the fence (not good at all).

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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GFYS

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#8 posted 1811 days ago

what’s bad about a TS is the table height is just the right height to ruin your love life!

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papadan

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#9 posted 1811 days ago

I was using the miter gauge and the small cut off end was thrown back at me. Yes the blade gaurd was on the saw, I only remove it to use my crosscut sled. I was working and standing to the left side, just not quite far enough left. The next thing I did was make some zero clearance inserts.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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Berg

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#10 posted 1811 days ago

For the thin stuff I use a push “stick” that I cut with a profile something like a jack plane, handle and all, from 1x scrap. The heel has a cleat that pushes the piece through while the length of the push stick holds the piece down. The heel is a consumable. When it gets eaten up I cut another “stick”. Actually the whole length is consumable. No way for the sliver to kick back. AND I always stand to one side. Every cut, every size, every time. The first time was by fortune the rest by choice.
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45acpbuilder

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#11 posted 1811 days ago

I did the “newbie” thing during a serious bout of cranial flatulence. “Just take the end off this piece and I’ll be done” got me! It was the drop piece that shot back at me. I’ve cut 6” lengths of old HEAVY tie-down strapping and sewn 14” worth (7) of doublers across the middle of the leather apron. I don’t like the “plane profile” push sticks – they let your hand get close and over the blade. I use the old-fashioned “hold-it-in your-hand-and-it-sticks-w-a-y-out-front” style. If I had been using a plane-style push stick, I may have gotten my thumb into the blade as I recoiled in horror. WIth the long-style push stick, my hand was still short of the blade.

-- M1911BLDR

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Durnik150

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#12 posted 1811 days ago

I just had a similar experience yesterday. I was putting a groove on the inside of some box sides so there would be a slot for the bottom. I was using purpleheart.

I had to remove the balde guard and riving knife since I wouldn’t be making a though cut. I had done two of the three pieces. On the third I must have flinched slightly or something. It happened so fast I honestly don’t know why it happened. It pulled the piece out of my hand, cutting a small bit into my right middle finger and left a blood blister on my right thumb. The piece bounced off my left hand, leaving my left pinkie sore and bruised.

Luckily, that was all the damage aside from the work piece which was trashed. I wasn’t using a push stick because I didn’t think it could push against the rip fence tight enough. Silly me. Luckily I only got some bruises and knicks. Scared me to death though! The mailman was just pulling up to the house to deliver the mail and he jumped almost as far as I did. It sounded like a gun shot!

I plan on using the push stick no matter what. I count myself lucky for not getting seriously hurt and won’t do that again.

-- Behind the Bark is a lot of Heartwood----Charles, Centennial, CO

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Craftsman on the lake

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#13 posted 1810 days ago

And my story is I stupidly located the outfeed end of my 6” belt sander about 2 feet from a window. Actually there’s no outfeed. It’s just the end that is the direction the belt is going. Lose the wood and it heads for the glass. Which it did. My genius solution that should have been obvious? Turn the sander around.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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jussdandy

157 posts in 1839 days


#14 posted 1810 days ago

most of mine are from using the ts to make rabbits or the big one is I made a jig to make the panels for raised panel doors, I have a right tilt unisaw,I usually tilt it about 13degrees, when I make the cut it drops the scrap between the blade and the jig, maybe I should rethink my jig, but I usally just stand to the left no I have no saftey equipment on my saw, but I am firm in my push sticks, will not put my fingers over the red.

-- Randy I have the right to remain silent, just not the ability ; )

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Karson

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#15 posted 1810 days ago

Sorry to hear abour your accident. Glad that all pieces are still attached.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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