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Luthierman

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06-04-2015 11:09 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane

First time post, long time lurker.

I searched for a while on this site as well as the internet and never really found any definitive answer for my inquiry.

A friend of mine has an old stanley No. 2 that I restored for him. It just had some light surface rust and a broken tote, as well as an extremely dull blade. Easy work, just a bit dirty. After finishing the work and tuning it up, I realized I liked this little plane. I mean I REALLY liked this plane. I want one. The problem is, for any of you that have looked for these planes, you know they are very collectable so thusly the price reflects that. What I want to know is whether or not anyone has ever decided to reproduce these? I think Fulton made a copy of it once upon a time, but my experience with Fulton is that of substandard craftsmanship compared to what else was available at the time. I know this isn’t always true, but it certainly can be. I don’t want to offend any Fulton fanboys here, I know there are some decent products made by that company. Anyway, has anyone ever seen a replica of the No. 2? Or am I stuck with buying the real McCoy? (Which in all honesty I am okay with. I have a soft spot for beautiful vintage tools.)

Thanks fellas and ladies,

Jesse AKA Luthierman

-- Jesse, West Lafayette, Indiana


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bandit571

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#1 posted 06-04-2015 11:15 PM

Millers Falls also made one that size….a No.7 it is called. Sometimes they are a bit easier on the wallet than a Stanley #2, but basically the same size plane.

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Luthierman

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#2 posted 06-04-2015 11:23 PM

Thanks for the reply. I forgot about that company. You are indeed right, the No. 7 is the basic copy of the No. 2. I do wonder though why this plane hasn’t come back. Seems like every other one Stanley has made has had a reissue or another company making a current version.

-- Jesse, West Lafayette, Indiana

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#3 posted 06-05-2015 02:38 AM

Chris Schwarz has a blog on re-furbing his #2 Miller Falls hand plane;
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/new-no-2-tote-new-finish

I would like to have one myself. I do have a Stanley #3, and am getting to love this little plane.

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#4 posted 06-05-2015 02:45 AM

You know LN makes a No. 2 sized plane.
https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/standard-bench-planes/no.-2-bench-plane?node=4171

I’m sure at 275, it is more than you were looking for, but the size is still in production.

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#5 posted 06-05-2015 02:49 AM

I picked up a #2 on the bay for a reasonable price. keep watching that.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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Luthierman

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#6 posted 06-05-2015 02:52 AM

Funny, I was on LN website when I got the notification. Yep, there it is in all its glory. How I missed that, I don’t know. Sure is pretty. Thanks guys.

-- Jesse, West Lafayette, Indiana

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#7 posted 06-05-2015 03:04 AM

I know woodriver makes a no1. Wouldnt surprise me if they made a #2.

A guy I bought some planes, chisels and saws from has a bedrock #2. One day, when I have nothing else better to spend my money on I’ll buy it.

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#8 posted 06-05-2015 12:56 PM

I have a Fulton 3708 (#2 size) and am very happy with it. I wasn’t sure of the utility of a #2 size when I picked it up, but haven ended up using it a lot. I’ll grab it for small smoothing tasks or many where I would have used a block plane previously.

This one was pretty obviously made by Millers Falls and is a good quality plane. Here’s a comparison pic of the Fulton and a MF #10 bodies.

The cost savings show up in a couple places. The sides are still rough from casting, not machined, which is not a big deal to me, as it doesn’t affect use.

The other place is that the knob and tote are generic hardwood. The tote was also not that well shaped from the factory—the edges from rounding over the front and back were still very prominent. I kept the wood, sanded the tote to a better shape and stained it to make it a bit more attractive. It would be pretty easy to replace with something better, like rosewood. if desired. Being made by MF, it also has the folded steel lateral and yoke, but that’s also not a use issue and just a result of who made it, not cost cutting.

Edit: Reading Schwarz’s article, evidently MF didn’t shape the totes very well, either. So the only difference is the machined sides.

Here is what it looked like when I got it.

Here is what it looks like now

All that to say – If price was the same between a Fulton and Stanley, of course I would grab the Stanley, but don’t dismiss the Fulton’s offhand, especially if you find a good deal. I don’t know if later ones were made more cheaply or not, but ones like mine are good quality planes.

Also, when this one was picked up last year, fellow LJ, WayneC was trying to sell an identical one on ebay. I don’t know if sold or not. If you are interested, it might be worth a PM to see.

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#9 posted 06-05-2015 01:00 PM

I did sell it. One of the main reasons is I already had a LN #2.

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#10 posted 06-05-2015 01:29 PM

Prices on #2 sized planes seemed to have ebbed a bit lately. I would keep checking Jim Bode (jimbodetools.com) or Patrick Leach’s site (http://www.supertool.com/oldtools.htm) occasionally until you see a user grade tool pop up.

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#11 posted 06-05-2015 01:47 PM

You might consider a number 3 as well if you don’t have one. They are a lot cheaper and easier to get and I really like the size myself.

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#12 posted 06-11-2015 12:06 AM

Almost Every major manufacturers made #2 size planes. Sargent had the 402, 707 and #7. Fulton were just Sargent before 1925, so they were quality. Millers Falls made them, Union made them in several iterations, and many more.

Almost any #2 size demands decent money though, but if you keep looking, you’ll dig one up.

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#13 posted 06-21-2015 01:43 PM

Might look for a Keen Kutter as well. I have a number 3 that was my grandfather’s. It’s a nice plane. They may have a No. 2 as well. Their numbering is the same as stanley but with a “k” or “kk” in front of the number. I believe the k models are better quality than the kk models.

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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#14 posted 06-21-2015 02:52 PM

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#15 posted 06-21-2015 03:09 PM

Of course it shows up at this great price when I cant possibly afford it. Got home last night from a log home restoration bid meeting and a storm had broken a window in my truck. That will get priority over the plane. the deductible is higher than the work. Keeps premiums cheap.

I did find myself a really nice Stanley No. 3 recently. I really like that size too. One of these days at the estate sale or yard sale I will find that No. 2. and it will be glorious. A No. 1. would be a miracle.

-- Jesse, West Lafayette, Indiana

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