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06-04-2015 04:22 PM

Topic tags/keywords: stanley 2 cap plane

I came across this little gem and bought it. I think the cap is plated so I don’t want to do anything until I get expert advice ( you all ). Due to the condition do I take it down to the metal and leave it, do I clean it the best I can and leave it or do I paint it? Any advice on the type would be great too!!! Thanks in advance :)
I guess having it replated is another option but I wouldn’t know where to start.

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!


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#1 posted 06-04-2015 04:41 PM

Do what you want with it. It’s yours.
Stanley #2 of this type is not that rare and is not that old either.

I read a post here on LJ on restoration analogy. It was something like, “You don’t see people driving rusted beat up vintage classic cars do your?”.

I would clean it just enough where it is obvious that it is a treasured user plane.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#2 posted 06-04-2015 05:10 PM

Thank you! I know it’s mine. I’m trying to learn and not mess these things up. This may be handed down for the next 100 years. I was just asking for a little advice!! The plane may not be rare but me being able to buy one is…

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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#3 posted 06-04-2015 05:16 PM

If you are going to keep it and use it. I would clean it up. Get the rust off it using evaporust, citric acid, electrolysis are all techniques that will remove the rust without harming the rest.
The nickel plating isn’t necessary on the cap. Makes it look better. Once you get the rust off it you can decide then what else you want to do with it.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#4 posted 06-04-2015 05:24 PM

Thanks Bruce! Yeah I’ve looked into that electrolysis and need to try it one day. Thank you. :)

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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#5 posted 06-04-2015 05:27 PM

Nice find, but I agree with hhhopks that this isn’t so rare and valuable nor in perfect condition that it matters too much for the value. You can clean it up and make it look spiffy and it will last a bit longer and sell probably as well or better.

For the lever cap there is probably rust starting to form under the plating. If you don’t address that it will get worse. Try soaking it in evaporust. It won’t harm the plating, but you may lose some more where it has rust underneath it already. Then polish it up. Evaporust will probably remove the red background in the logo so if you want to be really careful fill that in with some melted wax then gently heat it to remove it after soaking. I don’t think it would be worth it to re-plate it but only you can decide that. You can look up how to do it at home with a plating kit. I think the plating from that time was still just nickel, but don’t quote me on that.

The japanning on the plane body looks pretty good, I wouldn’t do anything to that other than cleaning it gently. You can put the whole main body in evaporust once you remove the knob and tote. It may also take off a bit more japanning if there is rust already underneath it, but there’s nothing you can do about that. If you don’t treat the rust it would still be there and keep spreading.

I’m not very good on typing, but off the top of my head since it has a high knob with a ring and straight teardrop hole on the lever cap it’s a type 16. You can look it up at hyper kitten or rexmill or others to verify based on those features.

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#6 posted 06-04-2015 05:34 PM

For one thing, that style of lever cap was from BEFORE 1933. Stanley changed to a kidney shape for the hole. Get a decent wire brush, either for a grinder, or for a drill press or a drill. Brass wire one is the way to go. Buzz off the rust and what is left of the flaky nickel pllating. Get a can of NeverDull from WallMart ( $5 or so) and polish the bare metal to a nice shine. You will likely lose that yellow/orange paint in the logo…Before you remove anything, take the lever cap to the store that sell touch-up auto paint. Match the colour. Then later, after everything is nice and shiny, and DRY, add the touch up paint into the logo. try to be neat, but one can scrub the excess off after the paint dries.

Clear as mud?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#7 posted 06-04-2015 06:06 PM

Clear as mud! Thank you! This is how we learn and that’s what I’m trying to do.

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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#8 posted 06-04-2015 06:32 PM

Nice find. I agree with bandit. Wire wheel it and polish it up. If you have access to a deburring wheel that will work best.

No matter what, don’t paint it!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#9 posted 06-04-2015 06:55 PM

Alright Don, paint has been put away! :) Thanks! You’ll see it on your restored forum one of these days

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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#10 posted 06-07-2015 01:24 AM

If you find a paint match, please post it for others.

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#11 posted 06-07-2015 02:41 AM

I sure will Pendragon

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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#12 posted 06-07-2015 10:54 AM

Don W should be chiming in on this thread soon. He is a hand plane guru and would be the best person to ask (IMHO)

-- "Man Plans and God Laughs"

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#13 posted 06-07-2015 01:38 PM

I’m hoping he chimes in.

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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#14 posted 06-07-2015 01:44 PM

Don W posted above (#8)...

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#15 posted 06-07-2015 01:54 PM

I think we are talking about the orange paint. I know not to paint the cap now. :)

-- Angie, If dogs don't go to heaven, then when I die I want to go where they go!

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